Pre Embargo Sticks?

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Lamar

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I was in the cigar shop yesterday and they were promoting pre-embargo sticks. The story I was given was that a bale of pre-embargo tobacco was found here in America and has since been made into thousands of cigars nationwide.

A bale popping up after 43 years? A pre-embargo cigar for $11? I know that all of this is hooey, but I actually enjoyed the smoke. Does anyone know what this cigar is about?
 
I bought a few Pinar 1958 Series B Rothschilds, they came with a little certificate of authencity from an independent appraiser. Smoked one but it was no big deal. I sent one to Paul when I paid for my hat, he might know if there's anything to it.

Gary
 
I used to rep for Pinar/Armando Ramos. I agree with Gary. No big deal on the Serie B Rothschilds, and the same for the P2000. However, they put out some good sticks in the Robaina line, the Magus, and the new Fiero Negro. The jewel of the company is the Especiale which is certified 100% Cuban leaf, but very expensive weighing in at about $20-45 each. Are they real? The owners and national Sales manager told me they were, but I am not sure myself. However, they are unique, and some are worthy. Now, there is also something else on the market. Gurkha has released a 1940 Cuban Series, a 1950, and a 1960 series is on the way. They are in my opinion real, but the price tag on them is equal to their rarity. A box of 25 retails for about $700. Many companies came out with pre-embago leaf in their cigars during the boom. Some were real, and some were well let's just say they tried to be real but couldn't fake it good enough in court. As much as I do not like the folks at Pinar I think they have some legal Cuban tobacco, not sure exactly how much they are using in their cigars tho. I no longer have any connection with this company pther than in the courtroom, but if anyone is interested in saving some money there is an account I used to sell to in MN that can hook you up nicely on price. Call Jim at Open Water Fine Cigar in Walker, MN at 218-547-3470 and tell him Montana Jack referred you. As for the Gurkha, I still ave 2 boxes and and an open box if anyone wants to try those as well. I don't want to post prices here as I am not sure it is proper etiquette in the forum, but you can expect to pay about half of the retail on them. Just my 3.5 cents worth.
 
Gurkha makes several lines of cigars. They make an expensive Louis the 13th Cognac triple infused in a glass tube which is an enjoyable/memorable smoke even if you don't normally smoke a flavored cigar. As you know, the Louis the 13th cognac sells for about $50 a shot where you can find it, but these cigars retail about $12-15. $9 here.

They make a regular line, and the rumor from the company is that they have Cuban leaf comprising 25-30 percent of the blend. I can't tell myself really, but they have been a solid seller for me. Retail is $9, but $4.25 here on the club. They are a perfecto shape and come in three sizes. They have more balls than the Aurora Preferido by a few miles. They have just released a new conventional shape line in torpedo, churchill, and robusto as well.

Their grand forte' is the Cuban Estate Reserve series. A question was asked if they were moldy or musty. No, they were rolled this last year, and offer a very smooth, earthy, solid tobacco flavor. Shops who were lucky enough to get this line sell boxes for $700 (see expensivecigars.com) but I have 2 boxes remaining, and 12 singles. Price is $15 per single or 15X25 for the box either way. It is a special occasion cigar for sure, and you will be a believer that it is real once you have had one. They do not taste anything like the pinar line which is questionable at best. If you want a 60 year old Cuban smoke and don't want to pay $200 a stick, then the gurkha 1940 series is your salvation. Now that I have filled up the barnyard ith bs, they are pretty worthy of your time.
 
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