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Ratters
11-28-2007, 12:18 AM
Has anyone watched this yet?
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1078621467/bclid1078629812/bctid1315783144

I found it very interesting. I tried it once and it worked rather well. I used to toast the foot then inhale while lighting to get it totally lit. Now even with the torch I've been completely lighting the foot before I take my first puff. I notice that I have fewer burn problems, especially early in the cigar. I'm not going to light any other way now.:ss

Opusfxd
11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
I've seen that too and tried it right down and including the wait to clip the tip. It actually works really well and seems to be a nice way to not only get your 'victim' ready but settle you down for the experience. (My time trying it was after work on a Friday so the process ended up being exceptionally relaxing)

DOHCtorJT
11-28-2007, 12:30 AM
I'd try it to show off sometime, but that took way too long for my liking!

Marlboro Cigars
11-28-2007, 12:37 AM
Interesting how they light before clipping..
Will have to try it sometime.
:tu

duckmanco
11-28-2007, 12:38 AM
Matches are such a pain in the b*lls EXCEPT when in a bar or some other place where the wind is not an issue. BUT, I have used the "not cutting until totally lit" idea. I no longer puff with the lighter going, and mainly because I can't stand the way the smoke gets harsh when I do it that way. Cool video with some good points.

Advil
11-28-2007, 12:54 AM
I've seen this too. I've yet to try lighting prior to clipping, but I no longer puff while lighting. Well, I TRY not to. If I have a stubborn stick then I may do it once or twice. Sometimes it lights up just fine but it looks like a small part of the filler isnt lit.

And since I use a butane torch most of the time, I don't rotate my cigar, I just move the torch around in circles, keeping the flame away from the foot. It seems way easier than trying to rotate the cigar in one hand.

dantzig
11-28-2007, 01:31 AM
Thanks for posting this.

I just tried a variation of this technique using my trusty little Chinese butane torch. I toasted and lit the foot before clipping the cap and then took a nice, full draw. The cigar lit beautifully and perfectly. I'll have to try it a few more times but it seemed to work a lot better than what I was doing before (toasting and then puffing while lighting).

daniyal
11-28-2007, 03:18 AM
Never seen this before but I usually toast the foot, try and get it lit evenly and them take my first puff. The most common problem I face doing this is usually a certain portion of the foot will get more flame than the others so starts running for a bit but its not really any thing to worry about since it corrects itself usually within the first half an inch.

Good find Ratters:tu

Harpo
11-28-2007, 04:56 AM
I recently forgot to clip my cigar before I lit it, and the smoke was excellent. I don't puff on the cigar as a light, I wait until the end is glowing evenly and blow on it before I take puff.

I can see how clipping it first would affect the flavour (presuming you're holding the cigar at an angle with the foot down as you light) the heat would rise and carry the initial carbonised tobacco up the length of the cigar and out the clipped end like a chimney.

Interesting thoughts!

:tu

ragin' cajun
11-28-2007, 05:22 AM
I'll have to try this someday. It seemed to work just right for him, but how many times does someone actually have time to sit and wait to burn three matches before enjoying a smoke?

TripleF
11-28-2007, 08:12 AM
Thanks for posting that video link. I think I'll try it next time I fire one up.

Thanks :tu :ss

fizguy
11-28-2007, 09:38 AM
Has anyone watched this yet?
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1078621467/bclid1078629812/bctid1315783144

I found it very interesting. I tried it once and it worked rather well. I used to toast the foot then inhale while lighting to get it totally lit. Now even with the torch I've been completely lighting the foot before I take my first puff. I notice that I have fewer burn problems, especially early in the cigar. I'm not going to light any other way now.:ss

The site is blocked for me at work, but based on the replies I take it they advocate lighting completely before even clipping.

My question is: doesn't that take an insane amount of fuel? I find that it takes a long time to light if I don't draw and my torch seems to run out too frequently as it is (Ronson Jetlite).

Cigary
11-28-2007, 10:08 AM
Ditto on this way of lighting,,,it makes more sense to establish the lit foot without drawing any contamination thru the cigar and when the foot is toasted clip the head and enjoy. It might take some time to toast the foot with your torch but that is why you buy the big can of butane and that is why you have a nice lighter to use and enjoy. I refill my lighter at least 4 times a week because of this ritual of not drawiing on the cigar until the foot is thoroughly toasted.

cbsmokin
11-28-2007, 10:14 AM
What do you do if you have to relight during your smoke, do you follow the same process?

hoax
11-28-2007, 10:16 AM
I just dip my cigar in gasoline before lighting. :BS

Texan in Mexico
11-28-2007, 10:20 AM
Thats cool, will try this morning!

Snakeyes
11-28-2007, 10:25 AM
I watched that same video and was intrigued. I haven't tried it with matches yet (I can't buy cigar matches around here and I'd go through 30 regular little matches) but I have used my torch and completely lit it before clipping. The one thing I noticed right off (as was mentioned earlier) is you don't get the harsh smoke taste you sometimes get when lighting while puffing. I also noticed that it burned a lot more evenly. I'm going to continue using this method as it doesn't take longer but play around with it and see if I can get it better :tu Anything to enhance the ritual :ss

WyoBob
11-28-2007, 10:26 AM
I call BS. The guy in the video and the "expert" he talks about are the only ones I've ever heard about who light a cigar this way. And, no wonder the guy in the video took so long and three matches. He had the foot of the cigar a long way away from the "hot spot" of the flame.

Anyway, I lit up my RP Torp this am with this method. Yeah, it works. But, I'm not getting any younger. I don't want to wait that long to get "lit". I don't think using three cheap, burning, pine wood sticks coated with sulfur and the long time invovled in getting lit up is superior to a quick light with cheap, clean burning butane. But, what do I know? I have no class anyway as I smoke my cigars to the nub instead of tossing them 1/2 way down.

WyoBob

SmokeyJoe
11-28-2007, 10:37 AM
Hmmm... I can only get it to play 51 seconds of the over 5 minute "Three Matches" video before it jumps to the "Cigar Wars" video. :hn

It will play any other video but the three matches one. Oh well... I'm sure it was interesting... :ss

Harpo
11-28-2007, 11:40 AM
I call BS. The guy in the video and the "expert" he talks about are the only ones I've ever heard about who light a cigar this way. And, no wonder the guy in the video took so long and three matches. He had the foot of the cigar a long way away from the "hot spot" of the flame.

Anyway, I lit up my RP Torp this am with this method. Yeah, it works. But, I'm not getting any younger. I don't want to wait that long to get "lit". I don't think using three cheap, burning, pine wood sticks coated with sulfur and the long time invovled in getting lit up is superior to a quick light with cheap, clean burning butane. But, what do I know? I have no class anyway as I smoke my cigars to the nub instead of tossing them 1/2 way down.

WyoBob

Tell us what you really think.

:D

Troop_lee
11-28-2007, 02:07 PM
That was definitely educational. I'll have to try something like that next time I smoke a cigar.

mustang1
11-28-2007, 02:39 PM
Brilliant, I will definitely try that this evening. Good stuff.:ss

Big D
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
Thanks for posting that!! I will give it a try sometime. Seems like a long process though. I guess the results would be the same if you used a lighter.

Bob
11-28-2007, 03:26 PM
First off this guy is so full of himself it is hilarious! Mark Twain (Sam Clemmons) would have had a field day with this one! George Burns would laugh his ass off after studying the technique. My Grandpa would say hogwash! I would love to see this guy in a strong wind! True CA Bull manure! What's this BS about it smoke being pulled through the cigar to change its taste??? I gotta admit some folks will do anything to get on a video! Personally, at least a stripper you know where she is coming from!! Sheesh!:fu

Show this video to the rollers in a few factories and watch the hesterics!

This video is cigar snobbery at its best! I just did the Fergie peed my pants thing!!

glking
11-28-2007, 03:32 PM
"I don't have time for this crap, but here is how you should do it". Yeah, right.......

mmblz
11-28-2007, 04:38 PM
First off this guy is so full of himself it is hilarious! Mark Twain (Sam Clemmons) would have had a field day with this one! George Burns would laugh his ass off after studying the technique.

:tpd:

haven't been able to listen to the audio yet but based on what I saw, I have a Christmas present for him:

http://www.northlineexpress.com/images/products/5UM-6150-xlg.jpg

runningonmt64
11-28-2007, 04:55 PM
Education video, will try it this evening. Thanks :tu

BostonMark
11-28-2007, 04:59 PM
When i'm home, I already use the cedar strip to toast the foot, so I'll be interested to try this out. Gotta find some of those long matches though, my B&M just hands out the short ones.

Honestly, I don't think it changes a thing (the not cutting or the cedar), but I always toast the foot slowly because it starts the ritual - gets me to calm down and by the time it's ready, i'm really excited about that cigar.

Oyin
11-28-2007, 06:18 PM
That was pretty interesting.. might not be picking up matches anytime soon (since i smoke outside) but i will try lighting before i cap the smoke!

Thanks for a great find!

BigFrankMD
11-28-2007, 06:34 PM
Looks pretty interesting. I smoke outside 99% of the time. I cant see myself using this technique due to wind and the elements.

On another note, that guy said he smokes 10 or more cigars a day on the tasting panel? Holy shit.

mitro
11-28-2007, 08:07 PM
On another note, that guy said he smokes 10 or more cigars a day on the tasting panel? Holy shit.
I"ll believe that when I can sit there and watch him smoke 10 whole sticks. And if he did, what exactly would he be able to say in a review of that 10th smoke? "Uhh... it lit and I smoked it. Tasted like charcoal." :r

I dunno who I detest more: this guy or the Suckling pig. :ss

Infin1ty
11-28-2007, 09:13 PM
That was very interesting. I'll have to try that next time I smoke.

Mullet
11-28-2007, 11:15 PM
there are actually some pretty cool videos of that guy on the CA website from what I remember. He's one of the top guys at CA so what more do you expect? Of course he's an elitist, that's his freaking JOB.

Here's the aforementioned site full of vids

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/Free/Video/0,4696,,00.html

No1der
11-29-2007, 02:09 PM
Thank you for posting the video.

I tried this method except I use a lighter; all I can say is that this method produces the cleanest, most even burn I've ever gotten consistantly.

It also doesn't take as long to light the cigar using a lighter so there's no reason not to use this method.

Great post. :tu

BlueWaterStogie
11-29-2007, 02:32 PM
Tried this last night w/ a new Ronson JetLite and a Punch Rare Corojo "robusto" (IMO, 4.5 x 50 that's actually nearer to 4.2 x 44 and calling it a robusto is pushing credulity a tad and is closer to a pc, but whaddewhyno).Anyway, toasting then lighting before v-cutting and drawing worked well. Got 0.8h (47 min.) out of the cigar down to a small nub, and the deeper-than-pretzelly-taste from end to end, combined w/significantly increasing strength will prompt me to acquire a box of these posthaste. The Ronson's a keeper as well, which is another story entirely.I like this lighting before drawing approach.BWS

No1der
11-29-2007, 02:53 PM
Tried this last night w/ a new Ronson JetLite and a Punch Rare Corojo "robusto" (IMO, 4.5 x 50 that's actually nearer to 4.2 x 44 and calling it a robusto is pushing credulity a tad and is closer to a pc, but whaddewhyno).Anyway, toasting then lighting before v-cutting and drawing worked well. Got 0.8h (47 min.) out of the cigar down to a small nub, and the deeper-than-pretzelly-taste from end to end, combined w/significantly increasing strength will prompt me to acquire a box of these posthaste. The Ronson's a keeper as well, which is another story entirely.I like this lighting before drawing approach.BWS

I didn't really notice to much difference in flavor, although the Padron Londres I tried it with seemed more consistant in it's flavor profile...

I really am enjoying the Torano Exodus I'm smoking right now though. I'd dare say I'm enjoying it more than usual. Maybe it's the result of the change in lighting procedure.

CaddoMoney
11-29-2007, 03:14 PM
I really enjoy the ritual of the smoke - the selecting of the cigar from one of the drawers in my humidor, toasting/lighting it, and writing about it in my cigar journal afterwards. I'll give this technique a shot as it might add to the experience, but I do nearly all of my smoking outside on my back deck with the wind and weather changing it might be difficult to try this technique anytime soon but I'll keep it in mind for a windless night. I don't know if it'll add anything to the taste of the smoke, but it will add an element to the experience - thanks for sharing.

No1der
11-29-2007, 03:32 PM
I do nearly all of my smoking outside on my back deck with the wind and weather changing it might be difficult to try this technique anytime soon

I think you will be fine lighting you cigar in this method even outside if you use a torch lighter. Those things are rather wind resistant.

Just my :2