New England V. Baltimore

[Sergeant Smoky]

NE 1 interested in 5-stick NC bet on this game tonight. I want NE -15.

[Sergeant Smoky]

Ok I see no takers. How about -20 points for NE?

[Sergeant Smoky]

I am watching the pre-game show. Just looking at the wind on the field will make this game interesting. Probally about 80% running game.

[rehbas21]

Going into the half 10 to 10....

[Simplified]

WOW:tu

[mikey202]

GO RAVENS!!!! What did I just say?!:D:tu

[rehbas21]

Hate to say it but Im pulling for the Ravens in this game, and they're up by 7.

[Simplified]

Hate to say it but Im pulling for the Ravens in this game, and they're up by 7.

Me too!!!:tu

[King James]

I hope the Raven's win as well

[BamaDoc77]

I have to say Leron Mclain (fullback for Balt) is lights out....making all kinds of holes for McGahee.

[mikey202]

McGahee is killin' 'em!!!:chk

[rehbas21]

McGahee is killin' 'em!!!:chk
What a game.

[mikey202]

KYLE BOLLER!!!! U DA MAN!!!!!:chk:chk:chk:ssSCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!! !

[rehbas21]

Back to back Sacks :chk:chk:chk

[BamaDoc77]

I have like a million dollars on Baltimore Money Line to win........(I wish) And 2 million at Balt +20.....(I wish again)

[mikey202]

OH MY GOD!!!! Brady looked like he was going to cry after that last sack!!!!
Brady=:mad:

[Simplified]

OH MY GOD!!!! Brady looked like he was going to cry after that last sack!!!!
Brady=:mad:

I am sure you never cheered for Baltimore as a Steeler fan...

Me too...:D

[Aladdin Sane]

KYLE BOLLER!!!! U DA MAN!!!!!:chk:chk:chk:ssSCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!! !

I LOVE you mikey.... in a non sexual way of course !!!! :D

[Aladdin Sane]

AND.......... I HATE the patsies.... No respect to any fans :D

[ResIpsa]

Wow........Patsies must have payed off the refs huh. What a bunch of bs calls at the end of the game. No way was that a td catch, he was bobbling the ball on his way out.

wow. paying off the refs. Who woulda thunk it from the patsies.:chk:D:r

[taltos]

It''s ok Vic, Poulian advanced us the money. My nerves are shot, would rather be lucky than good.:ss

[mmblz]

anyone have a picture of a raven entirely amputating its foot with a machine gun?

:r

[mikey202]

And that is why they are the Ratbirds.:confused:

You had everyone in the world backing you....you had the Patriots beat.

The coach who called the time -out, is a moron and Scott is a dumb-ass.

I can't believe what I just witnessed, you gave the win away.:confused:

[King James]

BOOOOOO!

[ResIpsa]

It''s ok Vic, Poulian advanced us the money. My nerves are shot, would rather be lucky than good.:ss:rI'm glad you take it in the tongue in cheek manner intended Paul. See how annoying that can be??:D


On another note, I learned something new tonight, Belichik has more in common with Darth Vadar than even I thought. Apparently he began his career with the Light, interning with the Colts under Ted Marchibroda before succombing to the less than desirable personal attributes he has today. and moving on to the Dark Side......this explains much!!:r

[taltos]

He wanted to stay with the Colts but asked for $4k and a car allowance for commuting from Annapolis to Baltimore. That request got him a pink slip. I am sick of these nail biters the past couple of weeks. Why get pissed at comments, doesn't do the jungle any good. Now to grab a large scotch and a cigar and head out to the porch.:ss

[Alpedhuez55]

:rI'm glad you take it in the tongue in cheek manner intended Paul. See how annoying that can be??:D


On another note, I learned something new tonight, Belichik has more in common with Darth Vadar than even I thought. Apparently he began his career with the Light, interning with the Colts under Ted Marchibroda before succombing to the less than desirable personal attributes he has today. and moving on to the Dark Side......this explains much!!:r
Actually, The Colts became the Darkside when they left Baltimore, just like the Ravens did when they left Cleveland, and the Rams. St Louis just sucks, they are too bad to be part of the Darkside.

Hope you enjoy cheering for the Pats next weekend!!! The Colts may still need it if they want a Bye. The Colts would have a tough time with the Steelers at home on that muddy field.

I am glad McGahee is not on the Bills any more. Pats only have to see him once a year at the most. Put him on a good offensive team and he would be one top five backs in the NFL.

[ResIpsa]

Actually, The Colts became the Darkside when they left Baltimore, just like the Ravens did when they left Cleveland, and the Rams. St Louis just sucks, they are too bad to be part of the Darkside.

Hope you enjoy cheering for the Pats next weekend!!! The Colts may still need it if they want a Bye. The Colts would have a tough time with the Steelers at home on that muddy field.

I am glad McGahee is not on the Bills any more. Pats only have to see him once a year at the most. Put him on a good offensive team and he would be one top five backs in the NFL.
the Colts hold the number 2 seed a one game advantage, and the tie breaker at this point, if they play the Steelers at all it will be at home:tu:D

[Alpedhuez55]

the Colts hold the number 2 seed a one game advantage, and the tie breaker at this point, if they play the Steelers at all it will be at home:tu:D

Still four more weeks to go!!! Colts lose one more game and the Steelers win out, and the Steelers have the Tiebreaker based on the Conference record. And judging from the last month and a half, the Colts may have another loss in them. Though they should run the table. But it is not exactly a commanding lead.

[ResIpsa]

Still four more weeks to go!!! Colts lose one more game and the Steelers win out, and the Steelers have the Tiebreaker based on the Conference record. And judging from the last month and a half, the Colts may have another loss in them. Though they should run the table. But it is not exactly a commanding lead.:rThe Colts are starting to get their people back, and have won the last 3 in a row, so I'm not quite sure where you're analysis comes from other than wishful thinking. Example: Sundays Jaguars game. Colts won by three, but if you watched the game you'd realize it was never close. Colts led by 14 points for most of the game.

If any team has losses in them based on the last month and a half, its' the PATRIOTS, not the Colts. An Old, fat defense beginning to wear down is what we're seeing, based on the number of points and the yardage given up to such offensive powerhouses as the Eagles and Ravens.

And of course, the Steelers running the table means a Pats loss to them, doesn't it:chk:D

[vtdragon]

...you had the Patriots beat.

The coach who called the time -out, is a moron and Scott is a dumb-ass.

I can't believe what I just witnessed, you gave the win away.:confused:

I agree. The Patriots were very lucky to win last night. If they don't step up their intensity, it is going to be a tough night against the Steelers. My hope is that the Pats have weathered their mini-slump and the team that everyone was complaining about running up the scores will show up for the Steelers game. You can be sure that it is going to be a very long week of practice for Belichecks minions.

[Quint]

What a great win for the P-A-T-S last night dispite the refs allowing Baltimore to hold and interfer with the Pats receivers all night. Thats been going on all season and the Pats still manage to win.

[Alpedhuez55]

:rThe Colts are starting to get their people back, and have won the last 3 in a row, so I'm not quite sure where you're analysis comes from other than wishful thinking. Example: Sundays Jaguars game. Colts won by three, but if you watched the game you'd realize it was never close. Colts led by 14 points for most of the game.
If any team has losses in them based on the last month and a half, its' the PATRIOTS, not the Colts. An Old, fat defense beginning to wear down is what we're seeing, based on the number of points and the yardage given up to such offensive powerhouses as the Eagles and Ravens.

Wait a minute there. the Colts led by 14 and the Jags closed it to 3 at the end of the game. The colts fold again as the game wears on just like they did against the Pats, yet it is the Pats defense that is wearing out? Remember last year when the Colts were a second half team? Now they are having trouble playing for 60 minutes on Defense. This year the little guys seem to be getting worn out and vunerable.

And of course the pats have come up big with stops or turnovers in the 4th quarter in order to win the three close games they have been in. The Colts have lost two of their close games.


And of course, the Steelers running the table means a Pats loss to them, doesn't it:chk:D

I have never thought the Pats would run the Table. Still think they will may lose one of the next four games. It may be weather like yesterday, resting the players, a team like the Jets or Dolphins with nothing to lose using a lot of gimmicks and blitz packages, or maybe even against the Steelers this weekend with the short week to prepare.

They will not lose in the playoffs though.

[ResIpsa]

Wait a minute there. the Colts led by 14 and the Jags closed it to 3 at the end of the game. The colts fold again as the game wears on just like they did against the Pats, yet it is the Pats defense that is wearing out? Remember last year when the Colts were a second half team? Now they are having trouble playing for 60 minutes on Defense. This year the little guys seem to be getting worn out and vunerable.

And of course the pats have come up big with stops or turnovers in the 4th quarter in order to win the three close games they have been in. The Colts have lost two of their close games.




I have never thought the Pats would run the Table. Still think they will may lose one of the next four games. It may be weather like yesterday, resting the players, a team like the Jets or Dolphins with nothing to lose using a lot of gimmicks and blitz packages, or maybe even against the Steelers this weekend with the short week to prepare.

They will not lose in the playoffs though.the Colts have not won any games that were "close". A close final score doesn't mean the game was close:tu. With the exception of the Chargers game and the end of the Patriots game,I don't think the Colts have rarely TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games. They frequently have a large lead, both early and late so are more concerned with running the clock down then anything else.

If a team is up by 14 points with 2 minutes left in the game they go into a prevent defense designed to eat up the clock but let the other team move the ball. Giving up a touchdown is less important than the clock running out, so frequently what was a 14 point lead or 10 point lead all game becomes a 7 point or 3 point win. That doesn't make it a close game.

Basic football strategy. Seriously, you aren't watching the games so I guess you are basing your knowledge on........what exactly???:D

[mmblz]

the Colts have not won any games that were "close". A close final score doesn't mean the game was close:tu. With the exception of the Chargers game and the end of the Patriots game,I don't think the Colts have rarely TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games. They frequently have a large lead, both early and late so are more concerned with running the clock down then anything else.

Uhh....

Chiefs were ahead for 8 minutes, Colts were only ahead for 6 minutes, and only won by 3...
They were behind for a whole quarter playing the Panthers.
They were behind for more than a quarter playing Denver, and only led by 1 point at any time in the first half.

I know you love your Colts, but let's talk facts, not just vague (and incorrect) assertions.
:r

[Alpedhuez55]

the Colts have not won any games that were "close". A close final score doesn't mean the game was close:tu. With the exception of the Chargers game and the end of the Patriots game,I don't think the Colts have rarely TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games. They frequently have a large lead, both early and late so are more concerned with running the clock down then anything else.

If a team is up by 14 points with 2 minutes left in the game they go into a prevent defense designed to eat up the clock but let the other team move the ball. Giving up a touchdown is less important than the clock running out, so frequently what was a 14 point lead or 10 point lead all game becomes a 7 point or 3 point win. That doesn't make it a close game.

Basic football strategy. Seriously, you aren't watching the games so I guess you are basing your knowledge on........what exactly???:D

Actually I was commenting on a game I did not see other than the highlights. But the colts have not been dominant in several of the games I did see like those against the Pats, Panthers, Chargers...and if you look at the other Patriots post from last week, I showed you that the Colts average about 10 points less in games played outside so not getting home filed is pretty much the nail in their coffin, like most Dome Teams.

And FYI, I was one of the top Defensive Linemen in Massachusetts in the mid 80s, I was all Eastern Massachuessts as a Jr. & Senior and was recruited by several major programs including Michigan, Penn State, BC and Pitt. Unfortunately I was hit by a car riding a bicycle a week before my Sr. Year and Shoulder injuries ended my playing days. I have also been a Defensive assistant coach for my old High School team. I know quite a bit about the game and stratigies.

[ResIpsa]

Uhh....

Chiefs were ahead for 8 minutes, Colts were only ahead for 6 minutes, and only won by 3...

They were behind for a whole quarter playing the Panthers.
so....they were ahead for 3 quarters then, yes??:D

They were behind for more than a quarter playing Denver, and only led by 1 point at any time in the first half.

again, so they were ahead for 3 quarters then, yes??:D

I know you love your Colts, but let's talk facts, not just vague (and incorrect) assertions.
:rummm.. Julian, thanks for helping to prove my point!:chk:D., they've rarely trailed yes??? I assume you don't cite the other games because they wouldn't help your cause.

[doctorcue]

Doug Flutie is my hero.












Just thought I'd add a little comic relief. :)

[ResIpsa]

Actually I was commenting on a game I did not see other than the highlights. But the colts have not been dominant in several of the games I did see like those against the Pats, Panthers, Chargers....

You have a unique perspective on when a team is not dominant:


Scoring Summary

1ST QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/CAR.gifTDDeShaun Foster (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/302193), 3 Yd run (John Kasay (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1379) kick is good), 3:59. Drive: 18 plays, 80 yards in 11:01.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifFGAdam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) 20 Yd, 0:47. Drive: 6 plays, 18 yards in 2:07.


2ND QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 2 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 1:33. Drive: 8 plays, 86 yards in 1:58.

3RD QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 4 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/12531) (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 12:11. Drive: 8 plays, 60 yards in 2:49.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDReggie Wayne (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235256), 59 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/12531) (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 4:47. Drive: 2 plays, 70 yards in 0:46.


4TH QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 12 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 13:09. Drive: 11 plays, 55 yards in 4:17.


I think the facts here speak for themselves. Other than a first quarter score, it was all Colts, all day. Looks pretty dominant to me.:D

[wilblake]

How about Samari Rolle's accusations of a referee disrespecting him at the end of the game? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3141124)

The ref called him a "boy" and he wants to sue. I could see if he was dropping racial epithets, but he referred to him as a "boy". Wow, that's certainly disrespectful considering the amount of verbal taunting and "disrespect" that the players give the refs game in and game out.

(rolleyes)

Edit: "The refs called me a boy. No. 110 called me a boy," Rolle said in the locker room after the game. "I will be calling my agent in the morning and sending my complaint. I have a wife and three kids. Don't call me a boy. Don't call me a boy on the field during a game because I said, 'You've never played football before.' "

The accused ref played for UCLA in his college days and also played in the NFL in the 70's and 80's.

[Alpedhuez55]

You have a unique perspective on when a team is not dominant:


Scoring Summary

1ST QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/CAR.gifTDDeShaun Foster (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/302193), 3 Yd run (John Kasay (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1379) kick is good), 3:59. Drive: 18 plays, 80 yards in 11:01.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifFGAdam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) 20 Yd, 0:47. Drive: 6 plays, 18 yards in 2:07.


2ND QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 2 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 1:33. Drive: 8 plays, 86 yards in 1:58.
......

I think the facts here speak for themselves. Other than a first quarter score, it was all Colts, all day. Looks pretty dominant to me.:D

That does not tell the story of the game. The First half Carolina dominated both sides of the ball and time of possession with several sustained drives. But I think Vinny Testeverde, who was just out of retirement, had a couple of turnovers, I think a stupid throw in the endzone and if I am right, a muffed snap. Vinnie gets knocked out of the game at the start of the Second Half and David Carr well, sucked. Panthers have no offense whatsoever and Colts took control.

THey are a much better team than the Panters and would have won anyway. Panthers made too many mistakes deep in thier own territory and very well could have had a 14 or 20 point lead after the first half.

Obviously you are too much of a Fanboy for the Colts to look at a game objectively and see all the flaws in the team. I explained all this crap toy you when you claimed the Colts had not looked past the Panthers, when they obviously had. Every game they lost is one the should have won. Simple fact is the Pats are a better team than the Colts.

You will get to see Manning when you watch the Superbowl though...I am sure there will be a new Gatrorade Commercial.

[mmblz]

the Colts have not won any games that were "close". A close final score doesn't mean the game was close:tu. With the exception of the Chargers game and the end of the Patriots game,I don't think the Colts have rarely TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games. They frequently have a large lead, both early and late so are more concerned with running the clock down then anything else.

ummm.. Julian, thanks for helping to prove my point!:chk:D., they've rarely trailed yes??? I assume you don't cite the other games because they wouldn't help your cause.

Maybe I misread your typo because of the all caps "TRAILED AT ANY POINT". I had guessed you meant "I don't think the Colts have really TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games." If you meant "rarely", then I guess something else is wrong with that sentence...
;)
In any event, I was never trying to say that they haven't been pretty dominant, just that you seemed to be understating the time that they have trailed.

And the Chiefs game was "close". No matter how you spin it, a 10-13 score is close. To say nothing of the fact that it was 10-10 until the final minute.

[ResIpsa]

That does not tell the story of the game. The First half Carolina dominated both sides of the ball and time of possession with several sustained drives. But I think Vinny Testeverde, who was just out of retirement, had a couple of turnovers, I think a stupid throw in the endzone and if I am right, a muffed snap. Vinnie gets knocked out of the game at the start of the Second Half and David Carr well, sucked. Panthers have no offense whatsoever and Colts took control.

Well, which was it? Did they have several sustained drives, or do they have no offense?:r

Brother I have Sunday Ticket, I watch every Colts game. You are making stuff up:D.

THey are a much better team than the Panters and would have won anyway. Panthers made too many mistakes deep in thier own territory and very well could have had a 14 or 20 point lead after the first half.

Dude, what game were you watching??:D Look at the drive chart from the ESPN site. You must have been watching a different game from the rest of us.
Obviously you are too much of a Fanboy for the Colts to look at a game objectively and see all the flaws in the team. I explained all this crap toy you when you claimed the Colts had not looked past the Panthers, when they obviously had. Every game they lost is one the should have won. Simple fact is the Pats are a better team than the Colts. Well...if the every game the Colts lost (all two of them:D) they should have won, then I guess they should have won the game against the Pats, right?? And I guess that makes the COLTS the better team right?? Thanks for finally acknowleding it!!:chk

You will get to see Manning when you watch the Superbowl though...I am sure there will be a new Gatrorade Commercial.


Here are the Panthers drives from that game:


Carolina Drive Summaries:

START QTR POSS. YRDL PLAYS YARDS RESULT

15:00 1 11:01 CAR 20 18 plays 80 yardsTouchdown

00:47 1 03:09 CAR 20 5 plays 5 yards Punt

11:29201:58 CAR 0 4 plays 14 yards Punt

05:41202:10 CAR 42 4 plays 10 yards Punt

01:33201:33 CAR 15 6 plays 17 yards End of Half

12:11301:36 CAR 21 3 plays 8 yards Punt

09:14303:41 CAR 15 6 plays 17 yards Punt

04:47302:21CAR 21 5 plays 14 yards Punt

13:09403:29CAR 31 12 plays 49 yards Fumble

03:33403:33CAR 39 4 plays 14 yards End of Game




Maybe I'm just a fanboy, I just report the facts, I don't make them up. After the Panthers first drive, they had 8 drives of less than 20 yards, and one 49 yard drive that ended in a fumble. Maybe 8 drives of less than 20 yards each equates to "domination on the offensive side of the ball" in your mind, but.....well........lets just say "domination" means just a LITTLE bit more to me than 4 and out, 4 and out, 4 and out, 4 and out.....:r

[ResIpsa]

Maybe I misread your typo because of the all caps "TRAILED AT ANY POINT". I had guessed you meant "I don't think the Colts have really TRAILED AT ANY POINT in any of their other games." If you meant "rarely", then I guess something else is wrong with that sentence...
;)
In any event, I was never trying to say that they haven't been pretty dominant, just that you seemed to be understating the time that they have trailed.

And the Chiefs game was "close". No matter how you spin it, a 10-13 score is close. To say nothing of the fact that it was 10-10 until the final minute.You are correct Sir, my language was faulty.

And I would agree that the Chiefs game was close from an impartial standpoint. Watching the game I never got the feeling the Chiefs were going to win, so I guess in my mind that means it wasn't close.:D

[mmblz]

And I would agree that the Chiefs game was close from an impartial standpoint. Watching the game I never got the feeling the Chiefs were going to win, so I guess in my mind that means it wasn't close.:D

Cool - I guess we're all clear then: the Colts are GODS in Vic's mind!

:r


At this point I'm not even going to attempt predictions, but I know we're all looking forward to the postseason...

[RPB67]

Wow...

Yup... Just read the headlines.

Patriots still in first place !!!!!!:tu

[RPB67]

You have a unique perspective on when a team is not dominant:


Scoring Summary

1ST QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/CAR.gifTDDeShaun Foster (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/302193), 3 Yd run (John Kasay (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1379) kick is good), 3:59. Drive: 18 plays, 80 yards in 11:01.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifFGAdam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) 20 Yd, 0:47. Drive: 6 plays, 18 yards in 2:07.


2ND QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 2 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 1:33. Drive: 8 plays, 86 yards in 1:58.

3RD QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 4 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/12531) (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 12:11. Drive: 8 plays, 60 yards in 2:49.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDReggie Wayne (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235256), 59 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/12531) (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 4:47. Drive: 2 plays, 70 yards in 0:46.


4TH QUARTER

http://images.sportsline.com/images/nfl/icons/IND.gifTDJoseph Addai (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/405288), 12 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1392) kick is good), 13:09. Drive: 11 plays, 55 yards in 4:17.


I think the facts here speak for themselves. Other than a first quarter score, it was all Colts, all day. Looks pretty dominant to me.:D


All that and they still couldnt beat the Patriots.....:D

[ResIpsa]

Cool - I guess we're all clear then: the Colts are GODS in Vic's mind!

:r

Well....yeah...:D Guilty as charged.

At this point I'm not even going to attempt predictions, but I know we're all looking forward to the postseason...yes......yes we are.:tu

[ResIpsa]

All that and they still couldnt beat the Patriots.....:Daren't you supposed to be washing the dishes or something?:D:r

[SteveDMatt]

What a great win for the P-A-T-S last night dispite the refs allowing Baltimore to hold and interfer with the Pats receivers all night. Thats been going on all season and the Pats still manage to win.


I don't think we watched the same game.

The defensive holding call on 4th down which help keep the Pats drive alive was suspect at best. That type of contact happens on half of all NFL plays and is called maybe 5% of the time.

Frankly, I'm tired of seeing Brady whine to the refs after every incomplete play that there was holding or interference. I believe the aforementioned penalty was a result of that whining all game.

JMHO

[ATLHARP]

Cool - I guess we're all clear then: the Colts are GODS in Vic's mind!

:r


At this point I'm not even going to attempt predictions, but I know we're all looking forward to the postseason...

Look,

The Colts are a great team. They have alot of talent, but like most teams they have some serious limitations as well. A big one is when injuries occur they have trouble filling the slots with reliable, durable replacements. That limitation exuded in the Chargers' game as well as the Chief's game. The Colts are damn good, but they are not better than the Pats..................and no amount of pissing,moaning, or fake crowd noise is gonna change that.:2


Andrew

[vtdragon]

Look,

The Colts are a great team. They have alot of talent, but like most teams they have some serious limitations as well. A big one is when injuries occur they have trouble filling the slots with reliable, durable replacements. That limitation exuded in the Chargers' game as well as the Chief's game. The Colts are damn good, but they are not better than the Pats..................and no amount of pissing,moaning, or fake crowd noise is gonna change that.:2 Andrew

Well said. When all is said and done the ONLY thing that matters is who won the game. As Bill B says: "It is what it is" and the Pats are still unbeaten

[RPB67]

aren't you supposed to be washing the dishes or something?:D:r

To busy watching ESPN and evryone talking about the PATS being in first.

Funny..........no mention of the Colts....:r

[Alpedhuez55]

Here are the Panthers drives from that game:


Carolina Drive Summaries:

START QTR POSS. YRDL PLAYS YARDS RESULT

15:00 1 11:01 CAR 20 18 plays 80 yardsTouchdown

00:47 1 03:09 CAR 20 5 plays 5 yards Punt

11:29201:58 CAR 0 4 plays 14 yards Punt

05:41202:10 CAR 42 4 plays 10 yards Punt

01:33201:33 CAR 15 6 plays 17 yards End of Half

Sorry, I was partially wrong. I thought there was a second sustained drive in there with a turnover for Vinny. Must have been thinking of another game... I am working from memory and not a game summary sheet from a game played several weeks ago. And I was swtiching off between another game at the time too. But still, it was 2-1 time of posession in the first half and the Colts struggled in until the last drive. The Colts were still outplayed in that first half.

Maybe I'm just a fanboy, I just report the facts, I don't make them up.

But when it comes to thing that are subjective, like bogus Pass interference calls against the Pats, Manning's season was still better even if Brady breaks the TD pass record, They pats won but the Colts oputplayed them....you are a total fanboy. In your mind, it is the Colts should be undefeated and the Pats should have 3 losses. In reality The Colts are the second or third best team in the NFL.

Plus you called me a troll for starting a post after the loss to SD!!! So I think that gives me the right to call you a Fanboy :D

[RPB67]

Mike

Why are you wasting your time.

We ALL know who is undefeated and in FIRST PLACE.

Not the Colts................its the Patriots....again !! :D

[ResIpsa]

Sorry, I was partially wrong. I thought there was a second sustained drive in there with a turnover for Vinny. Must have been thinking of another game... I am working from memory and not a game summary sheet from a game played several weeks ago. And I was swtiching off between another game at the time too. But still, it was 2-1 time of posession in the first half and the Colts struggled in until the last drive. The Colts were still outplayed in that first half.



But when it comes to thing that are subjective, like bogus Pass interference calls against the Pats, Manning's season was still better even if Brady breaks the TD pass record, They pats won but the Colts oputplayed them....you are a total fanboy. In your mind, it is the Colts should be undefeated and the Pats should have 3 losses. In reality The Colts are the second or third best team in the NFL.

Plus you called me a troll for starting a post after the loss to SD!!! So I think that gives me the right to call you a Fanboy :D

Actually, I didn't call you a troll. I made a comment about trolls. You applied that comment to yourself for some reason completely unbeknownst to myself:D:chk. But anywhoo, as fans of different teams we see our teams as the best. I expect nothing less.

Just as an aside, time of possession, like strength of schedule, is one of the biggest misleading stats out there.Teams that score quickly and that are explosive usually have TOP's right around 30 minutes or even less. The year the Colts set all the passing records their TOP was 29 minutes a game or something like that.

The Jags had a huge time advantage this Sunday, yet for most of the game were down by 10-14 points. Carolina had a huge time advantage yet got blown out by the Colts. The sole reason they had a time of possession advantage in the first half is they took almost 11 minutes to score on their first drive. Since the rest of their drives were bascially 4 and punt, 4 and punt 4 and punt it's unclear how they "dominated" as you again claim.

Just because one team has a time of possession advantage doesn't mean they dominated, it just as easily can mean that the other team is scoring quickly.

[ResIpsa]

Mike

Why are you wasting your time.

We ALL know who is undefeated and in FIRST PLACE.

Not the Colts................its the Patriots....again !! :DRichard. Would you like to place a small wager that the Colts AREN'T in first place??

I think I can accomodate you!!:D

[Alpedhuez55]

The defensive holding call on 4th down which help keep the Pats drive alive was suspect at best. That type of contact happens on half of all NFL plays and is called maybe 5% of the time.

Yes, when there is a game on the line, the refs are going to make the call...and are looking to throw to the outside...then no, that call is not made.

Ravens beat themselves. They are a physical team and get away with a lot, but when when they get little too physical, they are going to get those kind of calls.

[mmblz]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/12/04/mmqbte/index.html