View Full Version : 23 Months for Vick
Alpedhuez55
12-10-2007, 12:31 PM
It looks like he is getting 23 months:
http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/12/10/vick_1211.html
I think that is fair. He has lost a hell of a lot of money over this as well.
But then again, since I live near Atlanta, almost all their games are on TV here. So instead of what might be a good game, we are stuck with watching the Falcons try to win a game with a third or fouth string QB. So I say maybe add another 5 years on for that!!!!
He is a true dumbass and deserves everything he is going to get.
vintagejc
12-10-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm happy he's paying the price for such a horrible crime. Now, I hope the authorities don't stop here. This is a huge national problem and this should be the start. If not, Mike Vick was just a high profile target. I hope his penalty scares some people straight and saves the lives of harmless animals.
I have no respect for someone that intentionally hurts the helpless.
Troop_lee
12-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Should have gotten more time, but anyway.
Did he get banned from the NFL for life or not??
DriftyGypsy
12-10-2007, 01:46 PM
Can you say the next remake of the Longest Yard will be a documentary.
mosesbotbol
12-10-2007, 01:48 PM
That's what I thought he would get.
Could've sworn I started poll on how much time he would get a few months ago??? Couldn't find it.
I live in TN where Mary Winkler admitted to shooting her husband, a minister, while he was asleep in thier bed, and her children were in the next room... she served 7mos.....
Whether Vicks sentence was to little or to much, I dont know, but there seems to be some real discrepancies in the way our Justice system hands down it's sentencing.
So, will he ever play again???
jjirons69
12-10-2007, 02:08 PM
He's gonna have to do something for money. Looks like he has the NFL wanting $20M back, as well as a handful of creditors ranging from a couple hundred thousand to a couple million. I know he doesn't live from paycheck to paycheck, but that kind of money is hard to get easily.
Dumbass should have known better! DUMBASS!!
Mtmouse
12-10-2007, 02:15 PM
Canadian Football League will probably take him when he gets out.:mad:
NCRadioMan
12-10-2007, 02:21 PM
Did he get banned from the NFL for life or not??
No. He will have to serve a suspension when he gets out and the Falcons get the $20 million signing bonus back. He will play again. Probably not as a QB though.
xu_chen
12-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Federal sentencing guideline says 12 to 18 months AND he did plead guilty and admit to his crime.
He certainly deserved what he got but I don't know if the lengthy sentence was in the best interest of justice. If I'm a rich sports star facing charges in the future I may just decide to go to trial instead of cooperating and taking a plea bargin.
Just seems to me like he got a little extra unnecessary kick in the butt because he's rich and famous.
Alpedhuez55
12-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Federal sentencing guideline says 12 to 18 months AND he did plead guilty and admit to his crime.
He certainly deserved what he got but I don't know if the lengthy sentence was in the best interest of justice. If I'm a rich sports star facing charges in the future I may just decide to go to trial instead of cooperating and taking a plea bargin.
Just seems to me like he got a little extra unnecessary kick in the butt because he's rich and famous.
I think it is very fair. With time off for good behavior, he is looking at a year. If you give him a year and he is out in say 6 to 9 months in time for mini camp, that is just wrong. He deserved a little more than a slap on the wrist. And if he is a model prisoner, he will serve a year, do a few softball interviews with Jim Brown or Shannon Sharpe, and try to get a team to give him a shot.
As for other Superstar athletes who may face charges in the future....Lets hope this keeps them from doing the type of behavior that can get them a few years in Prison in the first place. Then they won't have any reason to hire high priced Lawyers. :2
I thought if you were sentenced in Federal court you basically had to serve all the time. Anyone know how this works?
bbaug14
12-10-2007, 03:25 PM
He definitely got what he deserved. I think he'll play in the NFL again. Regardless of how stupid he is in his personal life, he is still a talented football player and there will be a number of teams glad to take him up.
xu_chen
12-10-2007, 03:31 PM
He definitely got what he deserved. I think he'll play in the NFL again. Regardless of how stupid he is in his personal life, he is still a talented football player and there will be a number of teams glad to take him up.
This is what's so messed up with this situation. I think the worst case scenario for Justice would be, as stated, that he gets out in time for mini camp in a year and goes on to earn obscene amount of money.
Personally I believe that had the NFL grow some balls and just banned the guy outright, he may get more justice in the justice system.
Just my :2 on the subject.
Sawyer
12-10-2007, 03:33 PM
I think it is very fair. With time off for good behavior, he is looking at a year. If you give him a year and he is out in say 6 to 9 months in time for mini camp, that is just wrong. He deserved a little more than a slap on the wrist. And if he is a model prisoner, he will serve a year, do a few softball interviews with Jim Brown or Shannon Sharpe, and try to get a team to give him a shot.
I thought if you were sentenced in Federal court you basically had to serve all the time. Anyone know how this works?
I read that he can get up to 3 months off his time is all from this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316319,00.html). So, the earliest he would be out is Summer 2009.
Although there is no parole in the federal system, rules governing time off for good behavior could reduce Vick's prison stay by about three months, resulting in a summer 2009 release.
Alpedhuez55
12-10-2007, 03:55 PM
I read that he can get up to 3 months off his time is all from this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316319,00.html). So, the earliest he would be out is Summer 2009.
Thanks for the article. I did not see that anywhere.
Missing two years will be tough. But if someone is willing to give a 44 year old Vinny Testeverde a shot, Someone will take a chance on Vick, even if it is with Atlanta again. There are not a lot of quality QBs around at the moment.
taltos
12-10-2007, 04:19 PM
I agree that he might get another chance but I don't see him going back to Atlanta after the way that he abused the owner's trust. Oakland since they don't care about character and need names to sell tickets?
Darrell
12-10-2007, 04:27 PM
Did you guys know Michael Vick uses powdered soap?
Because it takes longer to pick up! :r
taltos
12-10-2007, 04:51 PM
He might have a different position when he gets out such as wide receiver.
Alpedhuez55
12-10-2007, 05:12 PM
He might have a different position when he gets out such as wide receiver.
Well, it is a pretty well known fact that Ron Mexico has Herpes....So there is still a chance he could come out of prison a Tight End.
Budprince
12-10-2007, 06:48 PM
IMHO, I think the sentence is pretty lenient, and likely based on his celebrity. . . if he was simply a no name thug vs a high profile NFL thug, then he'd be closer to the maximum sentence. I do believe in redemption and I truly hope for his sake that he used this time to change his life and learn to live a stand up life. Unfortunately I have my doubts.
RPB67
12-10-2007, 07:06 PM
All that talent wasted...........:hn
MarkinCA
12-10-2007, 07:50 PM
I believe the time that Vic is currently going to serve is based on the Federal case and there's still another court date to come with possible additional sentencing...:cb
macjoe53
12-10-2007, 08:13 PM
I believe the time that Vic is currently going to serve is based on the Federal case and there's still another court date to come with possible additional sentencing...:cb
Correct. This sentence is for the federal charges. He still has state charges which are different than the federal ones.
Trout
12-10-2007, 08:20 PM
how anybody could be involved in such cruelty to something as incocence as an animal is beyond me. Yes he lost alot, and a dog is not is the same as a human life. But I hope some Bubba in prison decides to make him his bride and play honeymoon night the whole time. May he leave prison carrying his but with a wheel barrow:sb
ATLHARP
12-10-2007, 08:31 PM
No. He will have to serve a suspension when he gets out and the Falcons get the $20 million signing bonus back. He will play again. Probably not as a QB though.
Maybe he can get a job at one of those cigar shops in the mall.:bn
Just a thought!
ATL
mustang1
12-10-2007, 09:16 PM
23 months is a gift. He did not get what he deserved. Ruination...complete and whole, that would be justice. May he never make another dollar playing football for the rest of his sorry life.
Electrocution, hanging, drowning...think of that the next time your dog happily greets you after a hard days work. He killed these dogs for no other reason than they lost him MONEY.
No amount of athletic prowess can compensate for moral depravity.
Please click the link. Warning: It contains graphic images of the aftermath of the kind of activities "Mr." Vick was involved with. http://www.filecabi.net/video/Pit_Bull_Myths.html
*If you can't bring yourself to watch it than maybe you should rethink your opinions on dog fighting.
PadronMe
12-11-2007, 10:15 AM
Should have gotten more time, but anyway.
Did he get banned from the NFL for life or not??
Why should Vick be suspended?
Ray Lewis was involved in a double homicide and was never suspended by the NFL. However he was fined $250,000. But then again it is a different commissioner.
Alpedhuez55
12-11-2007, 12:19 PM
Why should Vick be suspended?
He violated NFL Personal Conduct Policy:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2798214
Ray Lewis was involved in a double homicide and was never suspended by the NFL. However he was fined $250,000. But then again it is a different commissioner.
There is a new commissioner and a NFL Personal Conduct Policy that was not in effect in 2000. He should have been suspended. But at the time, the NFL had no way to suspend him.
THe NFL was tired of thugs like Ray Lewis and others being involved in these types of scandals. I am suprised they did not put in a program like that after the Rae Carruth was convicted of murder. But the Players Unions always said a player should not be punnished for something that happens off the field.
I hope all sports adpt this kind of strict policy. You get tired of seeing a Pitcher getting arrested for Domestic Violence and not miss a start, an NBA player get caught trying to gring his Pot vrom Vancouver to Seattle, and not getting suspended, or another hockey player involved in a Drunk Driving accident.
ATLHARP
12-11-2007, 04:08 PM
23 months is a gift. He did not get what he deserved. Ruination...complete and whole, that would be justice. May he never make another dollar playing football for the rest of his sorry life.
Electrocution, hanging, drowning...think of that the next time your dog happily greets you after a hard days work. He killed these dogs for no other reason than they lost him MONEY.
No amount of athletic prowess can compensate for moral depravity.
Please click the link. Warning: It contains graphic images of the aftermath of the kind of activities "Mr." Vick was involved with. http://www.filecabi.net/video/Pit_Bull_Myths.html
*If you can't bring yourself to watch it than maybe you should rethink your opinions on dog fighting.
Agreed,
I have dwelled a bit on the legal aspects in other threads concerning Vick (Interstate Gambling Ringleader/ Financier, Drug User, All around sh*tbag), but the cruelty aspect must be kept in perspective here too. There is a certain inhuman indifference concerning Vick that permeates this entire case. Vick's behavior throughout this case and after his plea bargain was truly shameful. I do not believe for a second that Vick is even remotely sorry for what he has done. I believe he is only sorry he got caught.
He deserves this sentence based on the merits of the case in which he was prosecuted, but in the sphere of sheer human decency he deserves a far greater punishment. He deserves to never play football again and to be universally hated as the total scum sucking sh*tbag he is. Vick's defenders do not impress me either; their arguments are specious at best and sound like a bunch of holocaust deniers who try to down play the carnage of the Third Reich. What Vick did was completely and utterly contemptible, and to reinforce that he duplicitously tried to lie and circumvent the law/public to save his cheap ass. Sentence too long? No. Should it be longer? I wouldn't complain. Do I think Vick got justice? That won't happen until after he dies.
Have fun Vick, I hope you are bunking with a dog lover...........
ATL
mmblz
12-11-2007, 04:51 PM
23 months is a gift. He did not get what he deserved. Ruination...complete and whole, that would be justice. May he never make another dollar playing football for the rest of his sorry life.
Electrocution, hanging, drowning...think of that the next time your dog happily greets you after a hard days work. He killed these dogs for no other reason than they lost him MONEY.
No amount of athletic prowess can compensate for moral depravity.
:tpd:
Couldn't believe the idiots in the stands last night still wearing Vick jerseys and holding up signs. To me, those fans are saying "I condone abusing, torturing and killing dogs". Freaking idiots. Just as Vick was suspended, these fans should not be allowed into the stadium wearing his jersey.
Oh yeah, and Roddy White's shirt underneath his jersey - I hope that counts as a prop and he gets a nice fine.
I was also surprised by all the talk in the sports shows and during the game of how he got a tough sentence and would he be back. Sounded to me like a lot of the commentators were already ready to forgive and forget as well.
:sb
PadronMe
12-11-2007, 05:00 PM
There is a new commissioner and a NFL Personal Conduct Policy that was not in effect in 2000.
Did Roger Goddell install this policy when he took over?
Alpedhuez55
12-11-2007, 05:18 PM
Did Roger Goddell install this policy when he took over?
I do not know what came first...but players are being suspended for off field hijinx now.