Machined made cigars do you?

[Jkbd33]

I was reading the most recent issue of cigar mag and it says that machine made cigars are outselling premiums cigars by millions something like
12:1 machine to premiums. I am just curious to see if they are right. I am a little biased and think that most people here don't smoke machine made unless forced to. So here are the questions.

So I am wondering do you smoke machine made.
As well as what is you favorite.
And how often.

So I guess I will answer first.

Yes when I don't feel like smoking for an hour or I will on the way home in the car.

I will pick up a pack of backwoods or ayc grenadier's

maybe a pack a month.

[Shaggy17sc]

Before I started smoking "premium" cigars I liked the backwoods "sweet aromatic" cigars, and the swisher sweets "outlaws" were pretty good to me then too. I also liked the philly honey blunts.
Since I have started smoking hand rolled cigars I have only smoked one or two machine rolled cigars, A philly from the last box, and a swisher wood tip i belive...I hate it, cus they are cheap, but I can no longer enjoy the really cheap machine rolled cigars the way I once could. Its really not fair, but such is life

David

[carbonbased_al]

When my budget is tight i'll pick up a box of Quinteros or Flor de Canos, but they aren't exactly my fav.

[Jeff]

Used to smoke Garcia y Vega sometimes before learning what a good hand rolled tastes like.

[punch]

I have no problem with some machine made cigars. The quality of the smoke is more a factor of the quality of the tobacco. With machine made cigars, you get very good consistency. Unfortunately, here in the US, machine made cigars use a lot of homoginized leaf instead of natural tobacco. THAT is what makes them taste like :pu , not the fact that a machine rolled them. Now a Schimmelpenink Duet; I'll take one of these anyday when I want a good, flavorfull short smoke.

[5thDan]

I smoked Garcia y Vega in the past before I learned what a good cigar was. If I was in a bind with no cigars of my own and was offered one I'd smoke a machine made cigar. Might be interesting to see how they taste after smoking good sticks for a while.

[DownUnder LLG]

I use to but not anymore, once I found the hand rolled that was enough for me :w

[Thurm15]

:pu

[BigDirtyFoot]

Occasionally I'll have a machine-made smoke. I don't see anything wrong with having one from time to time.

[SeanGAR]

The Flor de Cana and Quintero are honest, inexpensive MM smokes, as Smitty already pointed out. If a MM cigar tastes good I'll smoke it. Remember, Cremosas and Tamborils are hand made ....

[WillyGT]

I do smoke Machine Mades, but cuban Machine Mades. Have only tried a few non cuban machine mades but for NonCuban i prefer HandMades.

[JCole311]

Used to smoke Garcia y Vega sometimes before learning what a good hand rolled tastes like.

Ditto and those annisette cigars

[txmatt]

There are many great machine mades coming out of Cuba.

There are also some domestically made machine mades that are supposed to be very good that I will try once I can find them, namely Muniemaker and Topper Old Fashioned Extra Oscuro.

-Matt-

[calistogey]

There are very few totally MM's that are worth the aggravation of having bits of tobacco in the mouth along with poor appearance and construction. There is however something to be said about some of the hand finished ones.

[radiohead]

I just got away from smoking gas station cigars. I still have a Garcia Y Vega every once in a while, but I don't think I'll ever go back consistently.

[BMLawler]

Machine made Cubans

[Foz]

I was relatively impressed with the Quinterros I tried, what other MM's are made in cuba?

[carbonbased_al]

I was relatively impressed with the Quinterros I tried, what other MM's are made in cuba?

Jose Peidra, Flor de Cano, Guantanamara, several H upmann's and RyJ's.

[DrStrangelove]

I was reading the most recent issue of cigar mag and it says that machine made cigars are outselling premiums cigars by millions something like
12:1 machine to premiums. I am just curious to see if they are right.


I'm pretty sure that the majority of many machine made cigars: swisher sweets, phillies, garcia y vegas, backwoods, and dutchmasters, are not sold to be smoked as is... atleast here in the bay area and other liberal metropolitan areas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blunt_%28drug_culture%29

that might explain why they're moving units so fast. I've puffed on them briefly a few times and what can I say, I'm a snob. I only smoke premium cigars.

[G-Man]

There are many great machine mades coming out of Cuba.

There are also some domestically made machine mades that are supposed to be very good that I will try once I can find them, namely Muniemaker and Topper Old Fashioned Extra Oscuro.

-Matt-

Matt, check this out:

http://www.fullerspullers.com/topper.htmhttp://www.fullerspullers.com/topper.htm

I saw the Muniemaker somewhere as well, I just can't remember where.

[croatan]

I've had a number of MM Cubans that I thought were very smokeable. I've never tried any other types of MM cigars--the smell alone of a G&V or Swisher is enough to keep me from ever wanting to puff on one.

[Jkbd33]

I'm pretty sure that the majority of many machine made cigars: swisher sweets, phillies, garcia y vegas, backwoods, and dutchmasters, are not sold to be smoked as is... atleast here in the bay area and other liberal metropolitan areas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blunt_%28drug_culture%29

that might explain why they're moving units so fast. I've puffed on them briefly a few times and what can I say, I'm a snob. I only smoke premium cigars.


I live in a big city and I am 20 years old. So I knew about this already. I don't do any drugs but a lot of my friends sadly do and that is exactly what they do with them.

[Redman]

I have had in the past a few MM (swisher, etc) but I never really cared for them, just didn't do it for me. If I found one that was good i wouldn't be opposed to somking a MM at all, just good ones are hard to come by without ordering them online or something of that nature.

[txmatt]

Matt, check this out:

http://www.fullerspullers.com/topper.htmhttp://www.fullerspullers.com/topper.htm

I saw the Muniemaker somewhere as well, I just can't remember where.

Cool, they sell 10 packs; that is getting tempting.. Most shops only sell the whole box of them.

Has anyone tried the Topper/Camacho produced (hand made) Cosmo cigars yet? The FBT vitola is a very nice perfecto; you know I am obsessed with double taper perfectos!

This topic lead me to bust out a 10 year old :D MM H. Upman (Habanos). I smoked it on the way into work this morning. Let me tell you; you are REALLY missing out if you rule out all machine made cigars! :2

-Matt-

[herfdork]

When i dont have time to sit and relax and smoke a hand made ill smoke Grenadiers...

[ATLHARP]

The Flor de Cana and Quintero are honest, inexpensive MM smokes, as Smitty already pointed out. If a MM cigar tastes good I'll smoke it. Remember, Cremosas and Tamborils are hand made ....

Amen,

I just finished a JLP cazadores and it was a nice cigar. MM can be a good stick, and I will say that the JLP was better than some of the standard hand-rolled sticks I have had! Go figure.......


ATL

[dannyboy]

I went to college in Burlington, NC. That is about 20-30 minutes from the JR outlet. My roomate and I went up there and bought a box of Philly Blunts. You can imagine what they were for. I regret that now, being in this massive humidor and going for the Phillys. It is a shame, but what can I say, we were pot heads not cigar lovers.

I used to smoke machine mades when I was younger, because it made me feel like a bad ass. We used to get Swisher, White Owls, and Black & Milds and sneak off to smoke them. I do not currently smoke machine mades, but I do have a Flor de Cano sitting in the humi that I will smoke soon. I am looking forward to that, cause I am always looking for a cheap, good smoke.

[steve12553]

I'm glad someone is searching the archives. I wasn't aware of the uses for a machine made cigar. In this region, I don't see that many cigar smoker's and that doesn't leave a huge market for machine mades. There are one or 2 machine made smokers that I run across at work and almost not premium smokers. But somebody's smoking them.

[Jkbd33]

Whats funny to me about this is I forgot about this completely, and about a 2 weeks after I made this I quit my super small machine made habit. I ordered about $100 bucks of singles from famous and never looked back at machine mades again. However I was at the tobacco store today getting a few sticks and this old man had about 20 pack's of philles. I asked him if he ever smoked good sticks and he told me no. He was a cigarette smoker for 30 years and he got tired of hacking up stuff all the time and he went to smoking cigars (not a safe alternative) what how the surgeon general get here. j/k anyway he said he smoked a lot of different cigars until he found one that tasted the most like his old Marlboros so he could get his fix of taste and nicotine w/o inhaling.

[El Gato]

Sometimes I'll smoke a FD Grave Muniemaker or a Topper.
I usually get these at a drug store when for some inexplicable reason I don't have any "real" cigars with me.
Both are all tobacco and are very decent smokes. They're so much better than CyV, White Owl, etc.
I can honestly say they're a lot better than most one or two dollar handmades.
Try 'em you may like them.

[RPB67]

The only Machine made I smoke is the Por Laranga Panatella. This is a great $3.00 Cuban to have with a quick cup of coffee or after lunch when time is of a essence.

[Eichen]

Yup. I like some machine mades. Villager Kiel and Muniemaker Brevas are perfect in a pinch or at any time you want a cigar and fear that you'll be forced (for whatever reason) to get rid of it. I haven't tried it yet but I'll bet Muniemakers would be a perfect campfire cigar. Both are cheap and taste pretty good, IMO. For the money, connies are not too much more expensive and give me about the same thrills as regular Villazon firsts.

I smoke MMs only infrequently -- probably on the order of 15 to 25 handmades to 1 MM.

Anyone here try John Hay MMs? I'm interested b/c they're made with 100% US (esp PA) tobacco. Supposedly they're made with whole leaves. They're also pricey ($80/box of 50). From what I can gather, this is the kind of cigar most Americans smoked 50 plus years ago.

-E

[Stogiefanatic182]

after smoking handrolled premiums for awhile, I cant even touch machine mades anymore. They make me sick just smelling them

[ncohafmuta]

The only partially-machine made i like anymore is a Gustos cheroot. One of the only cigars I can find infused with wine or vanilla and not overpowering. Hate it very pronounced and a yucky sugar tip. Carmine Premium's are also good in this respect.
Gustos are dark-fired and fermented. They're unofficially made by Avanti and you can find them only at Ricardo's Cigar shop http://amishshop.com/cgi-local/hazel.cgi?action=serve&item=rccigar2.htm

-Tony

[[OT] Loki]

i have a few tins of ryj and punch sticks, but i'm not sure if they are MM or not

[JohnnyFlake]

There are some really good, even great, machine made cigars out there! If I can get them, I'll most certainly smoke them!:D

Johnny

[andy_mccabe501]

getting some partagas chicos soon, i believe they are machine made

andy

[taltos]

I will take a couple of packs of Outback Natural out on the boat with me or when I go surf fishing. Much less hassle and more convenient than hand mades in those situations.