Delima what would you do..

[kgoings]

So, I build custom poker tables as a hobby. And I built one for my then best friend 2 years ago as a gift. He left it at my house for the past 8 months because we have a home game at my house monthly. I just sold my house today and will be moving shortly, most likely out of state.

Here is the Delima, he made a pass at my wife...multiple passes. Wrote her love letters and all. And I personally do not want to ever see him again. I dont want to fight him either cause that will not fix anything. Should I have another friend take him the table? Or just keep it?

Oh an no worries the sorry sob is not a botl.

[mike32312]

Do with it as you wish. What ever brings you the most peace. If you feel that it is still his, leave him a message and tell him it's been placed outside and first come first serve. If he can beat everyone else to it than its still his. If not, someone just got a nice poker table. My opionion, he didn't respect you so why respect him?

[awsmith4]

Your a better man than I, if it had been me I'd have shoved that table so far up his a$$ that he'd taste the cards.

My advice leave at the house

[4thtry]

My opionion, he didn't respect you so why respect him?

nuff said.

The hell with him....if he's not going to respect you or your wife & family, than why should you worry about how he feels about the situation

[tchariya]

craigslist that baby! Sell it for some cigar/moving fund.

[wh0re]

craigslist that baby! Sell it for some cigar/moving fund.

Yup, there might even be someone on here that would trade for some cigars

[uncballzer]

craigslist that baby! Sell it for some cigar/moving fund.
:tpd:
Very good idea!

[stig]

Sounds like it would make a nice contest prize.:ss Got pictures?

[ResIpsa]

since you asked for opinions........

While agreeing what he did was despicable, selling, giving away, etc property that does not belong to you is larceny, either grand or petit depending on the laws of your state.......larceny is a crime, and also a civil tort.........larceny leads to criminal punishment and monetary damages.........


that's all i'll say.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Darb85]

send it to me! :D nah man, if he didnt respect you forget him. give it to someone who deserves your friendship

[kgoings]

since you asked for opinions........

While agreeing what he did was despicable, selling, giving away, etc property that does not belong to you is larceny, either grand or petit depending on the laws of your state.......larceny is a crime, and also a civil tort.........larceny leads to criminal punishment and monetary damages.........


that's all i'll say.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

That is kinda what I am worried about...

[chippewastud79]

Has he even made an attempt to come and get it? If he seems to have let it go, then I would do the same. IE: sell it or give it away. :tu

[4thtry]

That is kinda what I am worried about...


there are probably loopholes involved in this though. I'm no lawyer but there was no money exchanged...he did not buy the table from you, you gifted it to him, and he left it at your house.

again, i'm no lawyer or expert on law but i think there would be some things that would err in your favor

[68TriShield]

Fuc* Him....Keep it or give it to a real friend.

[sjnovakovich]

Your a better man than I, if it had been me I'd have shoved that table so far up his a$$ that he'd taste the cards.

My advice leave at the house

What he said!!:tu

[icehog3]

I am not even going to post what I would do, as following my advice would possibly lead to incarceration. :2

[wh0re]

since you asked for opinions........

While agreeing what he did was despicable, selling, giving away, etc property that does not belong to you is larceny, either grand or petit depending on the laws of your state.......larceny is a crime, and also a civil tort.........larceny leads to criminal punishment and monetary damages.........


that's all i'll say.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Not really applicable, the guy didn't pay for it. He has no way to prove it was his in the first place, even if it did go to court. :)

[BigGreg]

I am not even going to post what I would do, as following my advice would possibly lead to incarceration. :2

:tpd: except I wouldnt of even had the time to post here, id still be digging a shallow grave or cutting him up and putting him in a mail sack then dropping him in the ocean in multiple places with cinderblocks and thick steel chains. Can you tell im Italian & from Brooklyn?

[SmokeyJoe]

:tpd: except I wouldnt of even had the time to post here, id still be digging a shallow grave or cutting him up and putting him in a mail sack then dropping him in the ocean in multiple places with cinderblocks and thick steel chains. Can you tell im Italian & from Brooklyn?

"I don't mean nuttin' by dat, I'm just sayin' !" :r

I would never have guessed... ;)

[icehog3]

:tpd: except I wouldnt of even had the time to post here, id still be digging a shallow grave or cutting him up and putting him in a mail sack then dropping him in the ocean in multiple places with cinderblocks and thick steel chains. Can you tell im Italian & from Brooklyn?

Not sure ethnicity and location have that much to do with it, I am Irish and from Chicago and I plead the 5th so I don't incriminate myself. ;)

[kgoings]

:tpd: except I wouldnt of even had the time to post here, id still be digging a shallow grave or cutting him up and putting him in a mail sack then dropping him in the ocean in multiple places with cinderblocks and thick steel chains. Can you tell im Italian & from Brooklyn?


As Chris Rocks would say "I'm not saying its okay, But I understand!"

[bobarian]

You might consider donating it to a good cause like your local VFW chapter. I am sure they would like a nice new Poker table. :tu

[vstrommark]

I am sorry for your situation, no one should have to deal with that :BS

That said, you know that it isn't yours and many others know it as well. Doesn't matter that he doesn't have a receipt.

In the long run, you will have much better karma and peace of mind by not retaliating against him. Ask a mutual friend if that friend will contact him and also oversee him coming and getting the table. Be sure that there is a specific time table for pickup or the property will be considered abandoned and sold. Make sure that the mutual friend keeps notes of any conversations about the table (even with you) and that he includes the date and time in the notes. Make sure that the downside is communicated.

72 hours should be more than enough time, but you may want to call your state bar association to get a referral for someone that will give you a free 5 minute phone call worth of advice.

You are better than him. Do not stoop to his level. You will be glad you did in the future. At least I hope so.

[ResIpsa]

Not really applicable, the guy didn't pay for it. He has no way to prove it was his in the first place, even if it did go to court. :)
I'm sorry but you, Sir, are incorrect. Paying for it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that is all I'll say. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_21.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZN)

[tallypig]

Sounds like a no win situation. Bottom line-do what you can live with. I agree no fight, no fuss-but I'd get someone whom you both know to approach him-almost like a BTW type of thing and let him know he can pick it up between your designated times. Or if you know someone that wants to buy it, have them contact him and see where his mind is about it-he may not even be contemplating getting it from you.

All joking aside, you asked and I'm saying-be the better man-but never deal with the snake again.

[taltos]

For a proper means of dealing with him, I refer you to the wood chipper scene in Fargo.:tu

[pnoon]

I'm sorry but you, Sir, are incorrect. Paying for it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that is all I'll say. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_21.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZN)

C'mon, Vic. I bet he walked by a law library once. ;)

[bobarian]

C'mon, Vic. I bet he walked by a law library once. ;)

Or maybe slept at a Holiday Inn last night!:tu

[pnoon]

Or maybe slept at a Holiday Inn last night!:tu

I'm just amazed that people who aren't trained in the law feel perfectly comfortable offering a legal opinion.

[icehog3]

Ask a mutual friend if that friend will contact him and also oversee him coming and getting the table. Be sure that there is a specific time table for pickup or the property will be considered abandoned and sold.

At the very least, make sure it is on the lawn for his pick-up. I wouldn't let a piece of hooey like that step foot into my house.

[kgoings]

Thanks for the advice everyone, I decided to text him and ask what he wanted me to do with it. And I got back "Keep it", I forwarded the texts to my email so I have a record.

[chippewastud79]

Thanks for the advice everyone, I decided to text him and ask what he wanted me to do with it. And I got back "Keep it", I forwarded the texts to my email so I have a record.
Glad you got an answer, now you know you won't have to deal with him anymore. :tu

[kgoings]

Glad you got an answer, now you know you won't have to deal with him anymore. :tu

For sure!

[mike32312]

So what have you decided to do with the table now that it's yours? :tu

Oh and congradulations on not having to deal with this pr ick anymore. :tu

[Freight Train]

I would layeth the smacketh downth. I am happy it worked out for you.

[wh0re]

I'm sorry but you, Sir, are incorrect. Paying for it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that is all I'll say. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_21.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZN)


I'm honestly not trying to start argument, I really am curious, but can you explain to me how it would go anywhere in court, even if it got that far? Wouldn't it just be a he said-he said thing since I doubt there was a receipt given for this gift? I’ve always heard possession is 9/10 of the law.

Oh, and you are right pnoon, I'm not a lawyer but I am still allowed to give my opinion right?

[Freight Train]

I'm honestly not trying to start argument, I really am curious, but can you explain to me how it would go anywhere in court, even if it got that far? Wouldn't it just be a he said-he said thing since I doubt there was a receipt given for this gift? I’ve always heard possession is 9/10 of the law.

Oh, and you are right pnoon, I'm not a lawyer but I am still allowed to give my opinion right?
:tpd:

[pnoon]

I'm honestly not trying to start argument, I really am curious, but can you explain to me how it would go anywhere in court, even if it got that far? Wouldn't it just be a he said-he said thing since I doubt there was a receipt given for this gift? I’ve always heard possession is 9/10 of the law.

Oh, and you are right pnoon, I'm not a lawyer but I am still allowed to give my opinion right?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I just think it unwise to voice a legal interpretation without at least some background in the law. ResIpsa is a lawyer (which you couldn't be expected to know) who offered a legal perspective without giving advice.

[Freight Train]

Oh, and you are right pnoon, I'm not a lawyer but I am still allowed to give my opinion right?[/quote]

Only people who have paid to have the title of a lawyer can give legal opinions. :tu:r

[K Baz]

Me I would leave on the lawn with the "love" notes that he wrote attached to it with a much larger note that said "You sh*t is not appreciated here!"

[kgoings]

So what have you decided to do with the table now that it's yours? :tu

Oh and congradulations on not having to deal with this pr ick anymore. :tu

Well I still plan on holding home games, so it will probably go in my new poker room with my 2 other tables.

[SilverFox]

The whole his word against mine might not have been an issue in general but as he stated he gave it too him as a gift. Which means if he says otherwise in court he perjures himself. (which is a crime)

Sounds to me like a POS like that wouldn't be worth your conscience or reputation. You are a bigger man than I by taking the high road and I commend you for that.

I personally would have handed him a beating, or two.

[andrewsutherland2002]

I'm sorry but you, Sir, are incorrect. Paying for it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that is all I'll say. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_21.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZN)
That's all your gonna say to this? Where's the Vic who came down on me that time?:mnC'mon brother, lay the smackdown!:r
Just a joke.

[nozero]

You might consider donating it to a good cause like your local VFW chapter. I am sure they would like a nice new Poker table. :tu

http://nozero.org/Cigar/IAgree.gif

[ResIpsa]

I'm honestly not trying to start argument, I really am curious, but can you explain to me how it would go anywhere in court, even if it got that far? Wouldn't it just be a he said-he said thing since I doubt there was a receipt given for this gift?

.....I built one for my then best friend 2 years ago as a gift. This is a dead issue, but to answer your question. In his very first post he admits it was a gift. Even if he were willing to lie about it and perjure himself, there are plenty of witnesses (eg the other poker players) who could verify ownership. As a legal matter, there is no issue in dispute.

and this time, really, that is all I'll say:pp