Woman :P

[Mr.Lordi]

Ok, so there is this girl I have really liked for a while. Her and I have been talking for sometime and a lot too, over the course of like 6 months.

All seemed like it was going well, and I might have a chance with her, when her and I seem to get into this "bickering, married old couple mode" we just bicker and argue about small mundane things, it was stupid.

Anyways, as a man, no matter what I said or did, I was always wrong. (Life lesson number one: Woman are never wrong.) Anyways, being a man, I might have said some dumb stuff in retaliation for her dumb stuff, Which got me in even more hot water with her. It got to a point where she doesn't even want to give me a chance anymore. While this saddens me, I can live with that, I guess.

Anyways, today she did something that really bust my bubble. She was thinking about giving a guy--who treated her like crap only a few months before hand, and is notorious for being an jerk to woman--a chance to go out with her, even though the last time he was a jerk to her, she said she never give him a shot again.

This irks me to no end, cause he is just gonna be an ass to her all over again. This guy was also kinda a friend, which just makes it worse. Losing a woman to a jerk of a friend. She could have been thinking about dating a million other men, but decides to think about/ give him a chance.

I do my best to always be respectful of this girl cause I like her and the jerk who disrespects cause he is a doink, gets another shot and not me.

Yes, I discussed my feelings with her as well, it doesn't matter.

I should mention there is a distance between the girl and I, in terms of the town we live in, but it could have been workable anyways.

Man, I am not a big dating fan to begin with, but just between two woman(there was a girl before this one) My battery for dealing or wanting to deal with woman is drained and I don't care anymore. And I am only 22 damn it! lol :hn

I am not looking for any sympathy here, but I would like the following to help me feel better:

Older BOTL: What are some of your stories from being young involving woman troubles. How you get over or didn't.

Younger BOTL: What are some experiences similar to mine or worse you might have gone through or are going through. How you are getting over it, or have/have not gotten over it.

Oh yeah, and saying having Cigars/Pipe does not count. I all ready have that planned for later. lol :ss

P.S. If this thread is out of line and shouldn't be, or seems whiny/emo, or just plain sucks, you may delete it.

[Freight Train]

Don't worry about it. I understand that you liked the woman but some women fall for guys that treat them without respect (do you really want to be with a woman like that?). You and I are around the same age (i am 25). Focus on doing things that will increase your confidence(workout..etc ). The more confidence you display the more women will want to be around you. There are plenty of women out there enjoy life and don't worry about it.

[replicant_argent]

If you are bickering and doing petty crap in retaliation at 6 months, imagine what it will be like after 2 years.
Let her go do what she will do, go your separate ways, and find another woman that you can respect and you will "fit" with better.

[chippewastud79]

OK, I am not going to lie to you and pretend like it doesn't suck. I spent most of my teenage and early 20's being every girls big brother/best friend. Consequently, this gave me ample opportunity to give out plenty of hugs while watching girls I liked/was infatuated with made-out with dick heads. I saw many situations like you describe with this girl with some of my best girl friends. Some listened to me, some didn't, at the end of the day most of them admitted that I had been right and couldn't believe they had been so stupid. Bottom-line, if she doesn't listen to you now and he turns out to be a jerk, not only are you going to feel bad because she got hurt, she will feel bad that she didn't listen to begin with. Nobody wins in the shitty situations like that.

My only consolation I can give you is some day you will find the perfect girl who treats you right and she will make you the happiest man in the world. :tu

[JordanWexler]

(age 19) Girls are irrational. Honestly, be yourself. Of course there is room for the white lie here and there to get them to start dating you, but from then on...do what you please - nothing to offend of course. If she doesn't like it, she's probably not right for you. What i have found, is i do things i like...she hates them...but she realizes that they make me happy, so she copes. :tu
Of course i reciprocate these with some of the pet-peeves i have about her behavior. Relax, have fun...and enjoy the relationships.

[Mr.Lordi]

Those are some good ideas, and I shall be getting over it soon enough. Ya just kind of have to move on. Thats the beauty about being young, we heal fast and go out and do it again. lol

I do have to say that I agree with you replicant_argent, that if it was like that after 6 months, what would it be like in 2 years, and I guess I let that point escape me.

[tchariya]

(age 34) Life sucks sometimes. But there are soo many women out there to see and date...and find a better fit. I feel for you. We all go through these steps over and over again. Don't ever settle!

Hey you got us brothers/sisters to lean on in these trying times.

Hey...and don't use the word 'battery' like you did. I almost took it as the 'assault and battery' posting. Use something like....patience....emotional fortitude....

[AD720]

Thats tough dude. Sometimes it just doesn't work out for that ever reason. Just keep on being you, there are plenty of other fish in the sea.

I would just kill her with kindness and try to live your life. The wheel of Karma will spin back around your way.

Trust me, when it is right you will know it is right. And no amount of bickering will change it. :tu

[Queen James]

(female age 21) hey now, let's not beat up on all girls here! i'll admit a lot of girls are complete idiots when it comes to relationships (just look at who i'm dating ;) ) sometimes it's nice to fall for the bad guy but typically we always get burned...when she comes around it will (well it should) be too late for her. i mean honestly, you seem like you have your head on straight and if she can't see that for what it's worth then she definitely doesn't deserve a guy who is willing to treat her like a queen and that's her loss. the right girl will come around for you just have to be patient. hope that's somewhat helpful :)

[Mr.Lordi]

Hey...and don't use the word 'battery' like you did. I almost took it as the 'assault and battery' posting. Use something like....patience....emotional fortitude....


Sorry about that. In the future I will try to pick my words more wisley. I would edit it right now, but it's too late.

and thanks for the kinds words everyone. :ss

[r-ice]

lol you guys are all wrong.. you want that girl, you gotta be a JERK to get her, then be nice when the time comes =] see wasn't so hard..

[smitdavi]

(age 34) Life sucks sometimes. But there are soo many women out there to see and date...and find a better fit. I feel for you. We all go through these steps over and over again. Don't ever settle!


:tpd:

[awsmith4]

lol you guys are all wrong.. you want that girl, you gotta be a JERK to get her, then be nice when the time comes =] see wasn't so hard..

:tpd: The funny thing is that will work 99% of the time, even though I don't condone being a jerk, women often respond better to someone who doesn't respond well to them. Its called playing hard to get. Oh and the friend thing, sometimes you just have to man-up and ask the girl out, quit trying to play a "friend" angle. If you like her go get her.

[Beagle Boy]

If you are bickering and doing petty crap in retaliation at 6 months, imagine what it will be like after 2 years.
Let her go do what she will do, go your separate ways, and find another woman that you can respect and you will "fit" with better.

uuuuummmmm - "Where did you get that ugly green chair" :r





Sorry for the slight thread jack

[tsolomon]

Anyways, as a man, no matter what I said or did, I was always wrong. (Life lesson number one: Woman are never wrong.) Anyways, being a man, I might have said some dumb stuff in retaliation for her dumb stuff, Which got me in even more hot water with her. It got to a point where she doesn't even want to give me a chance anymore. While this saddens me, I can live with that, I guess.
(age 54, married 33 years, daughter age 22)My wife and I use to bicker and argue for our first 3 years and I had serious doubts about it lasting. What I have learned from that is as follows.

Women want somebody who will listen, but they don't want your help. You might see a solution to what they are complaining about, but keep it to yourself unless they ask for help. They are venting and just want somebody to listen, but as guys we want to help fix it.

When somebody screws up or you have an argument, the tendency is to figure out who was wrong first. This is bad as the person who is being assigned the blame, won't want to help resolve the problem. This is where who to blame isn't important, but solving the problem and moving on is. If there's a problem or disagreement between you, the goal is to resolve the problem and move on, not figure out who was wrong.

And the last thing is, do not go back in time and drag out old issues to make your point. Memories are faulty at best, you either resolved it when it came up or you didn’t. This is the blame thing coming around again and you don’t want to go there.

[r-ice]

lol why argue.. just say shutup and kiss me.. hahaha..
and yah the friend angle.. sucks.. doesn't work.. you'll figure it out soon enough.. women just want you to ask her out.. just ask her out to dinner or whatever and see where it goes from there.

However if you are going on a first date with a new chick, one that you don't know well or just met. Always take them to coffee, bubble tea, or something short and sweet. Short so you don't get alot of time to hang yourself and if the date turns sour gives you a chance of escape since its only coffee and you have sh1t to do afterwards. If the date turns good from coffee you can go anywhere else then to dinner then to bed.. YESH!!!:chk

[gvarsity]

I hate to say it but it's just part of being 22. It gets a lot less important as you go along. By that I mean whether you get the specific girl you are interested in at the moment. Relationships should get easier with less drama until you are married which is a whole different set of issues. My prediction is you will go through several of these kinds of scenarios on both ends of the equation over the next few years.

In this specific case she for whatever reason isn't ready for y'all to work out. If you really like the girl and think it could be something the only way to give it a chance in the future is to let it go now. Timing is everything and trying to force it because it's what you want IMHO just screws everything up. Granted easier said then done. I remember how consuming these situations are when you are 22. I'll tell you it gets a lot easier.

One specific case for me and I was well past 22. I was really good friends with a woman for six months. Hung out all of the time etc... I was really into her and she was into me but she didn't want to get into a relationship for a lot of reasons and I was cool with that. I wasn't looking for anything and I enjoyed her company if it became more at some point that would have been a bonus. Then all of sudden she decided to date an abusive co-worker. About two years later I ran into her and she apologized and told me it was the worst mistake she ever made. Didn't change anything, didn't make me feel better, didn't make her feel better and didn't make us friends again. Just a lost opportunity. $hit happens. Was it easy, did it feel good? No of course not but you get used to it and these experience hopefully changes your priorities.

You start learning to recognize what actually works for you vs what you think should work or things you want to work. Believe it or not these are usually very different things. As you learn from experience you make better decisions which lead to even harder experiences. Breaking up with a girlfriend of several years that worked in a lot of ways but didn't' work out is a really difficult experience. Which again hopefully leads to better decision making.

In the end for me I found a woman that works for me who ten years ago wouldn't have been on my radar at least not for the reasons I'm with her.

Best of luck how ever it works out.

[ResIpsa]

Sorry to say this but.....

Over the six months you spent "talking" to her you allowed yourself to fall into the "Friendship Zone"........

Abandon all hope ye who enter here......


Usually, there is no escape from the friendship zone. Next time, less talk, more action:ss:tu

[Mr.Lordi]

thanks for the replies guys, and gal. lol, I got some great insight from some of ya and even a story or two. It helped me a bit, so thanks. :tu

[JAK]

This all sounds so complex, makes me glad I date men, at least I understand how their brains works :P

[TheEconomist]

what it comes down to is you just aren't good enough......
:D:mn

[Jay Hemingway]

"Friendship Zone"........


OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


get over her, find another chick and move on. :tu

my :2

[borndead1]

Anyways, today she did something that really bust my bubble. She was thinking about giving a guy--who treated her like crap only a few months before hand, and is notorious for being an jerk to woman--a chance to go out with her, even though the last time he was a jerk to her, she said she never give him a shot again. --Alot of women, especially young women, like drama.

This irks me to no end, cause he is just gonna be an ass to her all over again. This guy was also kinda a friend, which just makes it worse. Losing a woman to a jerk of a friend. She could have been thinking about dating a million other men, but decides to think about/ give him a chance.

I do my best to always be respectful of this girl cause I like her and the jerk who disrespects cause he is a doink, gets another shot and not me. -- See above comment. You are not a "challenge", and therefore not exciting.

Yes, I discussed my feelings with her as well, it doesn't matter. -- Big mistake.

And I am only 22 damn it! lol :hn -- I remember being 22. I was a big sucka and got treated like dog shit by women I was crazy about.





You sound like a nice guy. Rest assured you will most likely never have a chance with this chick, at least until she is in her 30s, divorced, and finally tired of drama. If you do end up getting with this girl, she will probably dump you for a tattoo artist or musician.





OK, I know that sounds harsh, but I am one of those stupid "nice guys" too. I speak from experience. I am 33 and been through it all with women.

They SAY they want a "nice guy" who treats them right. Bullshit. Nice guys are boring. And yes, more than one woman has actually told me I am boring to my face.

My first "true love" dumped me for a drug addict.

I had a girl dump me for one of my friends once. What did he do that was so special? How did he woo her away from me? He ignored her. Acted like she didn't exist. She couldn't throw herself at him hard enough.

Another GF wanted me to get her a tattoo for her b day. I explained that it would have to wait until 2 weeks after her b day because of bills. Apparently she didn't feel like waiting that long, and had her ex boyfriend get her the tattoo! :r


Dude, unless you get very lucky (and I hope you will be), you are in for some heartache for a while. Women (and men) are reckless, selfish, restless, and indecisive when young. Looking back at my past relationships I wonder WTF I saw in some of those chicks...well, I know what I saw with my eyes, but...yeah. You understand. :D




Good luck man, and the best advice I can give you is: Don't be a sucka.

[andrewsutherland2002]

I've been married for 8 yrs. Have 3 kids. The time put into the marriage isn't long, but the time with the THREE kids adds up. You have to fight for the woman you love. I have had my wife reject me and want a divorce. I've wanted a divorece too at a period of time. But when it comes down to it, we love each other dearly. You don't have kids with this woman I assume (you know what assuming gets you), but if you love her, fight for her. You sound like you love her so get your a$$ out there and fight for her. Tell her how you feel (I know you'll feel like a little b!tch by doing this, but do it if you love her) and you'll at least have been true to thine own self. If you truly love her, fight for her. Don't give up. I am 29 and have been married for 9 years (no competition that I know of), you sound like she is worth keeping. Fights are normal between couples. No one gets along completely. If you love her, fight for her; if not, move on! Good luck, and I hope you are happy regardless of the result. (Remember, a woman is a woman, you are you).

[M1903A1]

You sound like a nice guy. Rest assured you will most likely never have a chance with this chick, at least until she is in her 30s, divorced, and finally tired of drama. If you do end up getting with this girl, she will probably dump you for a tattoo artist or musician.

OK, I know that sounds harsh, but I am one of those stupid "nice guys" too. I speak from experience. I am 33 and been through it all with women.

They SAY they want a "nice guy" who treats them right. Bullshit. Nice guys are boring. And yes, more than one woman has actually told me I am boring to my face.

My first "true love" dumped me for a drug addict.

I had a girl dump me for one of my friends once. What did he do that was so special? How did he woo her away from me? He ignored her. Acted like she didn't exist. She couldn't throw herself at him hard enough.

Another GF wanted me to get her a tattoo for her b day. I explained that it would have to wait until 2 weeks after her b day because of bills. Apparently she didn't feel like waiting that long, and had her ex boyfriend get her the tattoo! :r

Dude, unless you get very lucky (and I hope you will be), you are in for some heartache for a while. Women (and men) are reckless, selfish, restless, and indecisive when young. Looking back at my past relationships I wonder WTF I saw in some of those chicks...well, I know what I saw with my eyes, but...yeah. You understand. :D

Good luck man, and the best advice I can give you is: Don't be a sucka.

:tpd:

[Mr.Lordi]

Wow, some more great post on this as of late. I now realize I suck (Thanks to TheEconomist) and I am a dumbass as well.



I think the right choice of action lies somewhere between Andrew's and Borndead's advice. I don't need to treat her poorly like the other guy, but I sure as hell don't have to be as nice as I try to be. Let her try whatever it is she wants to try, and if she comes back around and wants to try again, great! if not, oh well. Life Happens.

Andrew, I do not have kids with this woman, thankfully. But she is a soon to be mom. Normally it's not a good idea to get into, or try to get into a relationship with a single mom, when you're young anyways, but I liked her before she became knocked up, so I kinda broke my own rule, which is no dating single moms, by still wanting to try with her anyways.

Thanks for the advice. :)

[uncballzer]

Oh, didn't know she was a mother. I fell for a single mom who was one of my best friends at the time. She was a looker before she got knocked up, and still was to me. But she let herself get treated like shit. I mean, she got kicked out of nursing school with 2 months left, after she had been at it for 3 years now. Still working a dead-end sporting-goods store job, and puts herself down every chance she gets. I had to break off basically all ties (ie just stopped calling/IMing/talking to her at all) because she'd call me to give me all this detail in her F'ed up life, and it was bringing me down as well. So whatever you do, do not get into that situation where if she comes to you just to fuss and bitch about how bad she has it; get away as quick as you can then. That's the only thing you can do.

[Mr.Lordi]

Oh, didn't know she was a mother. I fell for a single mom who was one of my best friends at the time. She was a looker before she got knocked up, and still was to me. But she let herself get treated like shit. I mean, she got kicked out of nursing school with 2 months left, after she had been at it for 3 years now. Still working a dead-end sporting-goods store job, and puts herself down every chance she gets. I had to break off basically all ties (ie just stopped calling/IMing/talking to her at all) because she'd call me to give me all this detail in her F'ed up life, and it was bringing me down as well. So whatever you do, do not get into that situation where if she comes to you just to fuss and bitch about how bad she has it; get away as quick as you can then. That's the only thing you can do.

Thats great advice, unforunetly about 6 months too late. :( The first girl I really liked is just like that. I was a idiot and played the nice guy to listen and everything, and it did nothing but f me over. Now she is "My bestfriend" as she likes to put it, and I am stuck watching her self destruct. On the plus side, she barely calls to tell me about her f-ed up life anymore, so I don't listen to as much bs as I used too. lol

[ky toker]

what it comes down to is you just aren't good enough......
Great! I owe you a beer.

Let her try whatever it is she wants to try, and if she comes back around and wants to try again, great! if not, oh well... But she is a soon to be mom.
What the **** is wrong with you? You are in a great position to Exit -> Stage Left. Once she had decided to go with that other guy that is a clear sign she isn't committed to you and if she knows there's a chance she can come back then see may also see you as the puppy waiting at the door for her return. And this is easily turning itno more drama than what you probably want.

Dude, she is pregnant. There could be a number of situations where a man could fall in love with a woman who is pregnant and they become a happy family, but this isn't it. 1) If this other guy isn't the dad then this pregnant girl has some serious character flaws, which you can see the position you're in now, and they will just lead into bigger and better issues down the road. 2) If this guy is the father then you're trying to work yourself into another bad situation. This will be a rosie relastionship you'll keep with him for many years. [read into the heavy sarcasm]

There's more detailed reasons why, but the main idea here is that this is bad, really bad, very bad. I've been through a number of situations like or close to this and I don't see any good here.

Go to a calkboard and write 100 x's.

I am not a knight in shining armor, run like hell.

[MithShrike]

You know, it's shit like this that makes it hard for me to really even try to find a girl. I brook no bullshit so I just gave up for now. I'm 22, the females my age that are worth my time are so few, I'm not going to even bother digging through the hay stack.

[BigGreg]

You know, it's shit like this that makes it hard for me to really even try to find a girl. I brook no bullshit so I just gave up for now. I'm 22, the females my age that are worth my time are so few, I'm not going to even bother digging through the hay stack.

NOOOO DUDE!! COME ON!!! At least do it for me were the same age man. Im 22 and with the same girl for 5 years.. Its rough, luckily I met the right girl for me at a young age, unluckily for me im still young. Dont give up on girls, just take a minute step back and think about what your experiences have been and how you can make new better experiences! Trial and error man trust me! Its like riding a bike, the first few times you fall off maybe get hurt a bit but you still get up brush it off and jump back on. Eventually youll get on a steady ride its just a learning process! From the way your talking you dont sound to be the most confident person(no disrespect here just an observation) you could be. Stop dwelling on crap with this chick who is giving you the run around. Be happy with yourself dont give your own self negativity or even think about yourself negativly. Be yourself live your life by doing what makes you happy and doing whats best for you. Girls like guys who are confident. Remember I said Confident not cocky ok maybe just a little coky. At our age they want someone who has a little bit of responsibility and a good head on their shoulders thats all you need man! Now live life up 22and single is awesome enjoy it for me man cause im basically married allready lol.

[MithShrike]

Man Greg, I stepped back nearly two years ago. Haven't had a serious girlfriend since. Sure, I've dated a few times but... I'm ancient. Last time I tried dating a girl my age I got some major bullshit about how I'm not any fun. I'm like her dad, blah blah blah. **** it man. It ain't confidence, I'm just the way I am and it ain't going to change. I'd rather be single than have to put up with bullshit and waste my money on dating.

[BigGreg]

Man Greg, I stepped back nearly two years ago. Haven't had a serious girlfriend since. Sure, I've dated a few times but... I'm ancient. Last time I tried dating a girl my age I got some major bullshit about how I'm not any fun. I'm like her dad, blah blah blah. **** it man. It ain't confidence, I'm just the way I am and it ain't going to change. I'd rather be single than have to put up with bullshit and waste my money on dating.

LoL I Misunderstood, but I still wouldnt give up looking. Glad your true to yourself though. Im sure there are a few girls out their our age that enjoy a more mature additude towards life. Maybe your just looking in the wrong places my friend, maybe you shouldnt be looking at all, in time itll come youll know when. Im sure eventually youll meet the right one, it took me quite a few as well. But dont give up man theres hope!

[Mad Hatter]

(age 54, married 33 years, daughter age 22)My wife and I use to bicker and argue for our first 3 years and I had serious doubts about it lasting. What I have learned from that is as follows.

Women want somebody who will listen, but they don't want your help. You might see a solution to what they are complaining about, but keep it to yourself unless they ask for help. They are venting and just want somebody to listen, but as guys we want to help fix it.

When somebody screws up or you have an argument, the tendency is to figure out who was wrong first. This is bad as the person who is being assigned the blame, won't want to help resolve the problem. This is where who to blame isn't important, but solving the problem and moving on is. If there's a problem or disagreement between you, the goal is to resolve the problem and move on, not figure out who was wrong.

And the last thing is, do not go back in time and drag out old issues to make your point. Memories are faulty at best, you either resolved it when it came up or you didn’t. This is the blame thing coming around again and you don’t want to go there.

What he said................. and IMO one of the two people in a relationship sometimes has to be unsure of where they stand with the other. Make sure that someone is her and not you.

[Queen James]

You know, it's shit like this that makes it hard for me to really even try to find a girl. I brook no bullshit so I just gave up for now. I'm 22, the females my age that are worth my time are so few, I'm not going to even bother digging through the hay stack.


Wow talk about a burn! :gnI've always liked being compared to a hay stack!! Like I said in a previous reply, I'm 21 but I've also been with the same guy for 4 years (and what a long 4 years it's been :D) Drama is no fun...which is why I'm glad I'm done with high school. Sometimes girls don't grow out of that phase and then you gotta say see ya! Girls who LOVE drama drive me crazy! You'll find the right girl and maybe she'll like cigars too! :tu Basically what I'm rambling on about is don't give up, she may be right in front of you and because you said forget it she may just walk past you. Keep an open mind...and if worse comes to worse I have some single friends here in Wisconsin! :)

[MithShrike]

Gods... snow? You trying to kill me?

Seriously though, my lifestyle has very little female interaction. Most of my friends are 20 years older than I am. Not only that I work technical support and as a "supervisor" it's not exactly proper so about the only place I do encounter the opposite sex. Not that I'm complaining, you know, don't shit where you eat.

[Queen James]

Gods... snow? You trying to kill me?

Seriously though, my lifestyle has very little female interaction. Most of my friends are 20 years older than I am. Not only that I work technical support and as a "supervisor" it's not exactly proper so about the only place I do encounter the opposite sex. Not that I'm complaining, you know, don't shit where you eat.

just because your friends are 20 years older doesn't mean you can't find a girl who suits you! maybe looking for a girl closer to your age is the problem...the older the more experienced (in most cases)!

[Mr.Lordi]

2) If this guy is the father then you're trying to work yourself into another bad situation. This will be a rosie relastionship you'll keep with him for many years. [read into the heavy sarcasm]

The guy she is trying with or wants to try with, isn't the father, but she does have a very good relationships with the person who is the father. They act a lot like a couple even though they are not together. He even lives with her so when the baby comes he can help out. She has even said time and again that he will be a big factor in her life from now on.

Not to mention he is 10 years older then her. lol

Jesus, I am an idiot, aren't I? lol

:hn

I may like the girl, but maybe it is for the best to seek out other woman. lol

[Mr.Lordi]

Man Greg, I stepped back nearly two years ago. Haven't had a serious girlfriend since. Sure, I've dated a few times but... I'm ancient. Last time I tried dating a girl my age I got some major bullshit about how I'm not any fun. I'm like her dad, blah blah blah. **** it man. It ain't confidence, I'm just the way I am and it ain't going to change. I'd rather be single than have to put up with bullshit and waste my money on dating.


I have no clue where the hell you live, but I know a lot of young woman that like the older gents and the fact that you're not old should be a bonus to those younger woman that like older guys, cause you be the best of both worlds.

Try seeking out the ones that like the older guys, or guys who act older. If not, may I suggest M.I.L.F's? lol

[ky toker]

:r Oh shit! Have you hit the chalkboard yet? :hn

I may like the girl, but maybe it is for the best to seek out other woman. lol
Wish her the best in life, brush yourself off, and grab your net and spear and hunt down another fine tailed bunny.

My wife would love this thread. It has the drama of her favorite trash show, Rock of Love. :r


You know want to do so, best of luck. :tu