Blazer PB-207cr

[catfishm2]

When txmatt talks about a product I tend to listen. The man has an uncanny ability to find a good product at a reasonable price. So it was on his recommendation that I bought the PB-207. I've had lighters by Solo, Nibo, Colibri, and countless others and none have performed the way that I wanted them to. Either they quit working after a short time or I had to refill them after just a couple of cigars.

I received the lighter in the mail the day I left to go to Frank's and Anita's house for the Louisville herf. So I just threw it in my bag as I headed out the door. The one I got does have the child resistant lock. It's black with the bottom third of the fuel tank clear for viewing the fuel level; just like the picture below. After filling it and taking 5 minutes to figure out how it worked(see child resistant part) we finally got to try it out.

Blazer says it has a 2500° flame. I'll take their word on that one. It has the cap attached to the body with a chain to prevent lose and a switch on the side to lock the flame on continuously if the need should arise. I'll admit that when I first saw the lighter I thought it was kind of ugly, but after seeing it in person it isn't so bad. It measures about 3 inches tall. The thing just looks as if it's industrial quality.

The real test was in the performance. We used it Friday night before leaving, all day on the trip to Louisville, continuously at the herf, and all the way back home. That's not counting the times just spent playing with it and passing it around for people to look at. I've used it countless times since I've been home also. By my calculations we're well into the third box of cigars and the fuel level still hasn't dropped into the bottom third viewing level. As far as longevity, well that remains to be seen, but I'm betting it will stand the test of time.

From the performance so far and for a lighter under $30, I give this two big thumbs up. I may have finally found the lighter I've been searching for. I highly recommend it to anyone.

[joed]

When txmatt talks about a product I tend to listen. The man has an uncanny ability to find a good product at a reasonable price. So it was on his recommendation that I bought the PB-207. I've had lighters by Solo, Nibo, Colibri, and countless others and none have performed the way that I wanted them to. Either they quit working after a short time or I had to refill them after just a couple of cigars.

I received the lighter in the mail the day I left to go to Frank's and Anita's house for the Louisville herf. So I just threw it in my bag as I headed out the door. The one I got does have the child resistant lock. It's black with the bottom third of the fuel tank clear for viewing the fuel level; just like the picture below. After filling it and taking 5 minutes to figure out how it worked(see child resistant part) we finally got to try it out.

Blazer says it has a 2500° flame. I'll take their word on that one. It has the cap attached to the body with a chain to prevent lose and a switch on the side to lock the flame on continuously if the need should arise. I'll admit that when I first saw the lighter I thought it was kind of ugly, but after seeing it in person it isn't so bad. It measures about 3 inches tall. The thing just looks as if it's industrial quality.

The real test was in the performance. We used it Friday night before leaving, all day on the trip to Louisville, continuously at the herf, and all the way back home. That's not counting the times just spent playing with it and passing it around for people to look at. I've used it countless times since I've been home also. By my calculations we're well into the third box of cigars and the fuel level still hasn't dropped into the bottom third viewing level. As far as longevity, well that remains to be seen, but I'm betting it will stand the test of time.

From the performance so far and for a lighter under $30, I give this two big thumbs up. I may have finally found the lighter I've been searching for. I highly recommend it to anyone.

Best torch lighter on the market - no doubt - no discussion - how did that show go - "No Brag - Just Fact"

[Dr. Stogie Fresh]

Nice review. Two thumbs up for the Blazer. An excelent herfing torch, it just works. It works in the heat, in the cold and even with newbies crushing their ashes into the jets.

Doc

[PuffDaddy]

After looking at yours at the L-V herf, I got a couple for me and Ian (drevim). I got it from NextCigar.com like Matt had recommended. IT IS FANTASTIC! It still has the same cold weather performance as other butane lighters, but other than that it performs flawlessly. The one I got doesn't have the child resistant feature on it. It also says Prince pocket torch. They look identical (and it seems to perform the same), so I'm guessing it is the same lighter just for the overseas market. I have a lighter obsession too, but this one is my "go-to".
Thanks to you Mark, and Matt for sharing your input on this great product!

Jeff

[floydp]

So I'm guessing you like it pretty good there Fish Head?

Nice review brother and boy does that thing perform.

[croatan]

Yep, best torch I've ever seen. I have two.

[SUOrangeGuy]

This was a great review. Where did you get the lighter with childlock for only $30?

[catfishm2]

I need to clear up an error I made in my haste to post this. The Prince PB-207 is $27 per unit from http://www.nextcigar.com/en/index.php. The Blazer PB-207cr(child resistent lock) is about $10 more. Same thing, one just has the lock. Sorry for the error.

[Danimal]

I love this lighter!! Can't say enough good things. Fuel lasts a very long time even smoking 1-2 a day. I only refill about once a month. I think it would be a great thing for two guys to split this deal.. last time I ordered they let you order 1 individually.

[ATLHARP]

Blazer makes great lighters and I would not doubt that this lighter is different. Blazers have big ole fuel tanks and typically don't need to be refilled that often. Even if you do have to refill it, so what.........after a long battle with Colibris I just want a lighter that works!

ATL

[drevim]

Great review, Mark. I'm not a lighter collector like some people, so the ones I get I want to work. I couldn't be happier with this lighter.

It is a great split for 2 people, and I think we (Puff and I) got them from HK, in 3 or 4 days.

Best $27 lighter I've seen.

[txmatt]

The lighter is Prince some places, Blazer others; never tried to figure out what the difference was. This lighter was the Original torch lighter for cigar smokers as far as I can tell.

WAAAAAY back when, I dunno say 92? I bought my first Blazer torch for $60. A very good friend of mine talked me out of it in '99. I figured I would just get another but couldn't find them ANYWHERE for a long time afterwards. I bought a similar torch called "The Volcano" that was also Japanese made and ugly, it worked almost as well but broke on me in '01. I tried the Prometheus knockoff of the Blazer - not nearly as good. You see Chinese knockoffs in gas stations across the country; they are junk.

I have bought dozens of lighters, I am a sucker for a good looking lighter, but few have ever given the performance of the PB-207, and none have lasted as long.

I recently aquired a St. Dupont Xtend on eBay for $34, and I gotta say it performs as well as the Blazer, however it retails for the price of 4-5 of them, and I can't yet attest to its longevity.. So if you hate the looks of the PB-207, don't think of anything less than an Xtend if you want top performance. In my opinion you certainly won't find this kind of performance or reliability from Nibo, Prometheus, VectorKGM, or (especially) Colibri.

-Matt-

[joed]

Great review, Mark. I'm not a lighter collector like some people, so the ones I get I want to work. I couldn't be happier with this lighter.

It is a great split for 2 people, and I think we (Puff and I) got them from HK, in 3 or 4 days.

Best $27 lighter I've seen.


Heartfelt has them - but the price has gone up to about $40.00 - I've given away a couple - but always try to keep a spare on hand - my first one lasted several years before I lost it - I would bet it's still working well for someone today. Absolutely the best cigar lighter out there and I think will last forever, unless you lose it - like dummy me - of course.

[The Master]

The prince is a cheap knock off of the Blazer and is crap. I bought 2 from Next Cigar and the Princes worked for a couple of months and then died.

I have 3 original Blazers and they all still work. Stay away from the Prince.

[rutkus]

my blazer pb207 sucks, i have the original w/o the childproof lock. it may light after 4 clicks but the slightest hint of a breeze blow it out. i went out and purchased a blazer cg-001, now that one i love. i really wish that pb207 would work, anybody know of a place to send these to get repaired?

[txmatt]

The prince is a cheap knock off of the Blazer and is crap. I bought 2 from Next Cigar and the Princes worked for a couple of months and then died.

I have 3 original Blazers and they all still work. Stay away from the Prince.

"The Master": do yourself a favor and be sure of your facts before you go making statements like that. Check out http://www.blazerproducts.com/LighterProducts/ and notice all the Prince lighter products.

In some countries the PB-207 is branded "Prince" whereas in other countries it is branded "Blazer". In both cases it is a model PB-207. Since you clearly don't get what the letters "PB" stand for in the model number; Prince Blazer. Same lighter, same plant, same assembly line, a different sticker on one spot..

-Matt-

[txmatt]

my blazer pb207 sucks, i have the original w/o the childproof lock. it may light after 4 clicks but the slightest hint of a breeze blow it out. i went out and purchased a blazer cg-001, now that one i love. i really wish that pb207 would work, anybody know of a place to send these to get repaired?

BLAZER PRODUCTS
WARRANTY & REPAIR FAQS

HOW LONG DOES WARRANTY COVERAGE LAST
One year from original date of purchase (Original proof of purchase required). Warranty coverage ends when a products becomes unusable for reasons other than defects in workmanship or material.

HOW YOU CAN GET SERVICE
Should a problem arise with your Blazer unit(s) please send it (post prepaid) to the address below. Be sure to include:

* Original dated receipt as Proof of Purchase
* A note explaining the problem(s)
* Your complete contact information including a phone number where you can be reached
* Return the unit(s) to

BLAZER PRODUCTS INC.
88 ALLEN BLVD
FARMINGDALE, NY 11735
Attn: Service Dept.

Warranteed products will be repaired or replaced, at Blazer Products' discretion, and returned at no additional cost.

OUT OF WARRANTY SERVICE
For products past the one year warranty date please follow the return directions above and
* Include $24.95 per non-warranty product

Non-warranteed products will be repaired or replaced, at Blazer Products Inc's discretion.

[rutkus]

BLAZER PRODUCTS
WARRANTY & REPAIR FAQS

HOW LONG DOES WARRANTY COVERAGE LAST
One year from original date of purchase (Original proof of purchase required). Warranty coverage ends when a products becomes unusable for reasons other than defects in workmanship or material.

HOW YOU CAN GET SERVICE
Should a problem arise with your Blazer unit(s) please send it (post prepaid) to the address below. Be sure to include:

* Original dated receipt as Proof of Purchase
* A note explaining the problem(s)
* Your complete contact information including a phone number where you can be reached
* Return the unit(s) to

BLAZER PRODUCTS INC.
88 ALLEN BLVD
FARMINGDALE, NY 11735
Attn: Service Dept.

Warranteed products will be repaired or replaced, at Blazer Products' discretion, and returned at no additional cost.

OUT OF WARRANTY SERVICE
For products past the one year warranty date please follow the return directions above and
* Include $24.95 per non-warranty product

Non-warranteed products will be repaired or replaced, at Blazer Products Inc's discretion.


cool, thanks.

[PuffDaddy]

I had a feeling you would have something to say about that Matt. You are the guru of the flame.

BTW..If it is a Prince PB-207 (like mine) does Blazer honor the warranty, or does it have to be shipped overseas? Just curious...I'm hoping to never have to use it but it's good to know.

[justinphilly]

lets get a group buy together!!!!

[wrinklenuts]

I'm in for a group buy. I want the one without the child proof lock.

[SUOrangeGuy]

Hey guys I just found a site that sells them for 25 free shipping.

[Warhorse545]

Hey guys I just found a site that sells them for 25 free shipping.



Good find there.


Stacey

[Viper139]

Thje PB-207 is the best cigar lighter I have found. The CR (Child Restraint) is the only one that can be legally sold in the US and is a little more money due to the CR addition. The price will probably go down after a little while when the new wears off.

[Mindflux]

I'd be down for a PB-207. Although that link above for 25 and 0 ship is probably about as good as it'll get.

[justinphilly]

i got mine a few weeks ago, and love it.. what i notice is how effiecient it is.. it lasts a long time in between fill ups..

[Shaggy17sc]

Im emailing a few people and seeing if i can beat that price with a group buy, seems like we got a few interested monkeys. (myself included)

David

[bonggoy]

Im emailing a few people and seeing if i can beat that price with a group buy, seems like we got a few interested monkeys. (myself included)

David

If this happens, I'm in for a pair.

[qwerty1500]

Im emailing a few people and seeing if i can beat that price with a group buy, seems like we got a few interested monkeys. (myself included)

David

Have not yet done a group buy here in the jungle. But, I'm tired of problems with my Colibri and these sound like good reliable lighters. Let us know if you get a deal.

[Jason Love III]

Have not yet done a group buy here in the jungle. But, I'm tired of problems with my Colibri and these sound like good reliable lighters. Let us know if you get a deal.

Absolutely worth it qwerty....I got one on the recommendation of TXMatt and it's the BEST. Go for it! :) :2

[aliphus]

I bought 3 Princes and have only used one of em so far. It's worked great.

[Shaggy17sc]

Have not yet done a group buy here in the jungle. But, I'm tired of problems with my Colibri and these sound like good reliable lighters. Let us know if you get a deal.

I was not able to get anything together that would save enough to make it worth doing a group buy on. I think the best i got was five dollars off; and nothing to beat the 25$ price on the prince.
maybe next time.

David

[SeanGAR]

In my experience those guys (25 dollar prince) have good service as well. The 2 I bought there arrived yesterday ... I ordered exactly 7 days earlier.

[Shaggy17sc]

In my experience those guys (25 dollar prince) have good service as well. The 2 I bought there arrived yesterday ... I ordered exactly 7 days earlier.

I plan on getting one, just wont be able to get the group buy going. Think im gonna spring the extra five bucks and get one that says "Blazer" on it. I think (not sure) that this one (http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/BLZ-PB207.html) Does not have the Child Lock on it. and its only 31 bucks.

David

[txmatt]

That one won't have the lock on it but should say Blazer on it.

The only 2 ways to get the lighter before it was "re-released" at the '05 RTDA with the safety lock were from overseas or from a tool store. You do have to document this will be used for a business if you order from the tool warehouse; the lighter can't be sold as a lighter without the child safety lock. See their disclaimer posted below

"Please Note:
In accordance with Consumer Safety Products Commision regulations, BLAZER products are not available for sale to the general public. These products are available for sale to commercial and industrial purchasers only, and will only be shipped to valid business addresses. Please provide a valid state tax identification number when ordering BLAZER product. Add this id number to the shopping cart comments field during the checkout process. Thank you for your cooperation."

[SeanGAR]

I plan on getting one, just wont be able to get the group buy going. Think im gonna spring the extra five bucks and get one that says "Blazer" on it. I think (not sure) that this one (http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/BLZ-PB207.html) Does not have the Child Lock on it. and its only 31 bucks.

David

The nice thing about ordering from that $25 HK place is that they have other interesting stuff there. If you get the order up to $50, you get free express shipping that always (and I mean always) arrives in a week or less. They ship items that require humidity control with humidipaks.

The one from there is Prince Japan but not blazer and not child proof. Quite a nice piece.

[Shaggy17sc]

That one won't have the lock on it but should say Blazer on it.

The only 2 ways to get the lighter before it was "re-released" at the '05 RTDA with the safety lock were from overseas or from a tool store. You do have to document this will be used for a business if you order from the tool warehouse; the lighter can't be sold as a lighter without the child safety lock. See their disclaimer posted below

"Please Note:
In accordance with Consumer Safety Products Commision regulations, BLAZER products are not available for sale to the general public. These products are available for sale to commercial and industrial purchasers only, and will only be shipped to valid business addresses. Please provide a valid state tax identification number when ordering BLAZER product. Add this id number to the shopping cart comments field during the checkout process. Thank you for your cooperation."

Yeah, i saw that, my uncle has his own welding buisness, i'll just get his buisness Tax Id Number. The childlock might just be too complicated for me, so im gonna try to get one without it. And I just think "blazer" sounds better than "prince" LOL.
Im getting this lighter because of you Matt, so if i dont like it, im calling you for a refund.:D

[fpkjr]

You can also order PB-207 if you have a Trade License. During the checkout I put my Elect Lic.# in the Comments section at Tooltopia. Its selling there for $33.00, at first they said no, then reversed themselves the next day. Honestly, I think they went to my States Consumer Protection Website to make sure I had a License. The one from ToolTopia is a Blazer PB-207 w/ rubber stand the old model, as I understand it. I'm not sure If the license thing will work at thetoolwarehouse but it did at ToolTopia. I do not have a business and they shipped it to my home address.

I called Blazer and spoke with customer service who informed me the new PB-207 either with or without the cr does not come with the rubber stand anymore. I think I may have gotten an older model.. I thought I'd post this as a FYI.
Frank

[jgros001]

The nice thing about ordering from that $25 HK place is that they have other interesting stuff there. If you get the order up to $50, you get free express shipping that always (and I mean always) arrives in a week or less. They ship items that require humidity control with humidipaks.

The one from there is Prince Japan but not blazer and not child proof. Quite a nice piece.
Got mine from the same place about 2 weeks ago and have since put it through the ringers. Came out with flying colors...now just hope it withstands the tests of time.

[sad808]

Got mine from the same place about 2 weeks ago and have since put it through the ringers. Came out with flying colors...now just hope it withstands the tests of time.
Somebody on here said that the " Prince pocket torch" which is the Japan rip off of the Blazer PB-207 is a piece. Well let me say this. I do not smoke expensive cigars and I'm not rich and I own one of those cheap rip off's. I have owned my Prince pocket torch for 8 years and never ever had a problem with it and I paid $5 for it at a flea market. There is no difference between the two, except the price. I also own several other lighters, but the Prince is my favorite. Who ever said Colibri is junk doesn't know much about lighters either. The only time you have problems with these type of lighters is when you don't fill them correctly and when you go from inside where it is cold to 90 degree weather or the other way around. From the nice warm house to the freezing cold outdoors. That is why some of the better lighters come with an adjustment on them. So you can get the pressure correct. Butane lighters are touchy they don't like temperature changes and they certainly don't have a brain. So sometimes there owners might have to adjust them to get them to light. If you want dependability, buy a Zippo and enjoy the taste of lighter fluid, yummy. With that said I think it's time to smoke a Newport!!

[sad808]

:w :hn :D

[Warhorse545]

Somebody on here said that the " Prince pocket torch" which is the Japan rip off of the Blazer PB-207 is a piece. Well let me say this. I do not smoke expensive cigars and I'm not rich and I own one of those cheap rip off's. I have owned my Prince pocket torch for 8 years and never ever had a problem with it and I paid $5 for it at a flea market. There is no difference between the two, except the price. I also own several other lighters, but the Prince is my favorite. Who ever said Colibri is junk doesn't know much about lighters either. The only time you have problems with these type of lighters is when you don't fill them correctly and when you go from inside where it is cold to 90 degree weather or the other way around. From the nice warm house to the freezing cold outdoors. That is why some of the better lighters come with an adjustment on them. So you can get the pressure correct. Butane lighters are touchy they don't like temperature changes and they certainly don't have a brain. So sometimes there owners might have to adjust them to get them to light. If you want dependability, buy a Zippo and enjoy the taste of lighter fluid, yummy. With that said I think it's time to smoke a Newport!!


Matt more or less explained it in post 16 I think

In some countries the PB-207 is branded "Prince" whereas in other countries it is branded "Blazer". In both cases it is a model PB-207. Since you clearly don't get what the letters "PB" stand for in the model number; Prince Blazer. Same lighter, same plant, same assembly line, a different sticker on one spot..

-Matt-

Stacey

[DAFU]

So where can I get one for $25??????

[Bigwaved]

xxxxxxxxx.com

IHT - sorry, this was a web address that goes directly to a "possible" cuban cigar vendor, which isn't allowed. if you want to PM someone with the link, go for it.

[doctorcue]

Reading all the posts has just about confirmed my purchase of this. [Knock on wood] My Colibri Firebird has been good so far, but I am tired of filling it up. I'm gonna pony up for one in the next week or so. The weather is only getting nicer & I'm enjoying about 1 a day. So I'm gonna want that big resevoir.

[Warhorse545]

Reading all the posts has just about confirmed my purchase of this. [Knock on wood] My Colibri Firebird has been good so far, but I am tired of filling it up. I'm gonna pony up for one in the next week or so. The weather is only getting nicer & I'm enjoying about 1 a day. So I'm gonna want that big resevoir.


You should be good for many cigars with one fill up. I am surprised how long it goes between refills.


Stacey

[Bigwaved]

xxxxxxxxx.com

IHT - sorry, this was a web address that goes directly to a "possible" cuban cigar vendor, which isn't allowed. if you want to PM someone with the link, go for it.

Very sorry for the mistake. Was thinking lighter, not cigar at the time. Thanks for the friendly warning.

[bebop86]

hey guys= Is there a brand of fluid that works better than others with these lighters- Just rec. my pair of princes( great service)- thanks- gary

[catfishm2]

hey guys= Is there a brand of fluid that works better than others with these lighters- Just rec. my pair of princes( great service)- thanks- gary

I've used Vector and Blazer and never had a problem with either.

[floydp]

Just don't use Ronson. Fastest way to screw up a good lighter. If thats all you have, use matches.

[fpkjr]

I've used Vector and Blazer and never had a problem with either.
Vector is the best, and the only one that goes into my Blazers.

Just don't use Ronson. Fastest way to screw up a good lighter. If thats all you have, use matches.
Another very good point. Ronson will clog your lighter up in no time. If I'm not mistaken, that voids the warranty also?
Frank

[Bigwaved]

Vector is the best, and the only one that goes into my Blazers.


Another very good point. Ronson will clog your lighter up in no time. If I'm not mistaken, that voids the warranty also?
Frank

Just picked mine up today from the post office. Thanks for the fuel recommendation.

[Warhorse545]

Vector is the best, and the only one that goes into my Blazers.


Another very good point. Ronson will clog your lighter up in no time. If I'm not mistaken, that voids the warranty also?
Frank

Ok going to call a foul on this. Mine was a gift. Never read alot on what to use how to use and etc. I asked the person that sent it to me what fule he used and he said Ronson. Many refills later and no problem. It is still running fine. No problems at all. Click flame and I am off and going.


I just have to ask what the hell is going to clog a lighter with a gas? Its a gas, no solids. What is going to clog what? How much of the hype for triple refined this and that will people buy into???? Butane is butane. Good lighter will run, bad lighters look for better fule and more tweaking?? Or is it just a bad lighter? My 207 has been running like a champ for months on Ronson. Lights works and no worries. BAH I aint buying into it



Stacey

[fpkjr]

Ok going to call a foul on this. Mine was a gift. Never read alot on what to use how to use and etc. I asked the person that sent it to me what fule he used and he said Ronson. Many refills later and no problem. It is still running fine. No problems at all. Click flame and I am off and going.


I just have to ask what the hell is going to clog a lighter with a gas? Its a gas, no solids. What is going to clog what? How much of the hype for triple refined this and that will people buy into???? Butane is butane. Good lighter will run, bad lighters look for better fule and more tweaking?? Or is it just a bad lighter? My 207 has been running like a champ for months on Ronson. Lights works and no worries. BAH I aint buying into it



Stacey

I called Blazer on a unrelated issue and asked which fuel I should use in the 207. They were pushing the Blazer brand. The guy in customer support / repairs told me not to use Ronson. That he had several torch lighter up there for clogged port repairs due to bad fuel.
That could have been a push to the Blazer butane, I have no idea. All I know is I have no problems with Vector. Except for one now, its about 1.50 more then the cost of Ronson :mad:
It was my understanding from reading here to use the triple refined. Trust me had I known Ronson wouldn't cause a problem, I would have bought it.
Frank :hn

[SeanGAR]

I just have to ask what the hell is going to clog a lighter with a gas? Its a gas, no solids. What is going to clog what? How much of the hype for triple refined this and that will people buy into???? Butane is butane. Good lighter will run, bad lighters look for better fule and more tweaking?? Or is it just a bad lighter? My 207 has been running like a champ for months on Ronson. Lights works and no worries. BAH I aint buying into it

Stacey

Stacey,
All of the "butanes" are hydrocarbons ... some are a higher % butane than others. If they allow some high molecular weight stuff into the mix, when the butane evaporates, the higher MW stuff is left as a liquid. It is soluble in the liquified butane but much less volatile. Add one CH2 to butane and you have the liquid pentane. I haven't analysed these "butanes" by GCMS to determine the % of higher molecular weight hydrocarbons in them, but I'd be willing to bet, based on past experience, that Ronson has more of the larger molecules that would tend to clog the lighters with liquid than King, Vector or some of the "better" butanes. Thats my :2 and I'm sticking with it!
Ciao
Sean

[floydp]

Stacey,
All of the "butanes" are hydrocarbons ... some are a higher % butane than others. If they allow some high molecular weight stuff into the mix, when the butane evaporates, the higher MW stuff is left as a liquid. It is soluble in the liquified butane but much less volatile. Add one CH2 to butane and you have the liquid pentane. I haven't analysed these "butanes" by GCMS to determine the % of higher molecular weight hydrocarbons in them, but I'd be willing to bet, based on past experience, that Ronson has more of the larger molecules that would tend to clog the lighters with liquid than King, Vector or some of the "better" butanes. Thats my :2 and I'm sticking with it!
Ciao
Sean

:tpd:
Makes sense to me(whatever it was Sean said), I used to use it and started having clogging problems. So I got to searching around CS for answers and was told not to use Ronson. I quit and have had few or no problems since.

[Warhorse545]

Stacey,
All of the "butanes" are hydrocarbons ... some are a higher % butane than others. If they allow some high molecular weight stuff into the mix, when the butane evaporates, the higher MW stuff is left as a liquid. It is soluble in the liquified butane but much less volatile. Add one CH2 to butane and you have the liquid pentane. I haven't analysed these "butanes" by GCMS to determine the % of higher molecular weight hydrocarbons in them, but I'd be willing to bet, based on past experience, that Ronson has more of the larger molecules that would tend to clog the lighters with liquid than King, Vector or some of the "better" butanes. Thats my :2 and I'm sticking with it!
Ciao
Sean

EHHHHHHHHHH don't confuse me with the facts :r


And I see where your coming from. And can see where there is some concern. I guess I am one of the few that does not have any issues with Ronson. And no I do not own stock :) Many cans used and so far so good. Just going by what I have dealt with first hand. If I start having issues with clogging, I will know why.

Stacey

[SeanGAR]

EHHHHHHHHHH don't confuse me with the facts :r


And I see where your coming from. And can see where there is some concern. I guess I am one of the few that does not have any issues with Ronson. And no I do not own stock :) Many cans used and so far so good. Just going by what I have dealt with first hand. If I start having issues with clogging, I will know why.

Stacey

Maybe you got a good box code? Hehe.

[ghostrider]

HEHEHE, I just googled PB-207 and the first site to come up was some chemistry site. Apparently Pb is the symbol for Lead, which has an atomic weight of 207. Wonder how they came up with that particular name for this lighter.

[fpkjr]

HEHEHE, I just googled PB-207 and the first site to come up was some chemistry site. Apparently Pb is the symbol for Lead, which has an atomic weight of 207. Wonder how they came up with that particular name for this lighter.

The PB stands for Prince Blazer Its sold under different names depending on where its offered. Doc. Stogie Fresh http://www.stogiefresh.com/ has a review of the lighter. DO a search for his posts and PB207 on CS.
The Original Blazer PB-207 was pulled from the US market some time ago. Now they added the consumer warning and restriction on who could purchase them within the USA. However, It's available in the US once again.
There are two types being sold the 207 and the 207cr the "cr" denotes a child resistant device.
I hope that helps..
Frank

[Warhorse545]

The PB stands for Prince Blazer Its sold under different names depending on where its offered. Doc. Stogie Fresh http://www.stogiefresh.com/ has a review of the lighter. DO a search for his posts and PB207 on CS.
The Original Blazer PB-207 was pulled from the US market some time ago. Now they added the consumer warning and restriction on who could purchase them within the USA. However, It's available in the US once again.
There are two types being sold the 207 and the 207cr the "cr" denotes a child resistant device.
I hope that helps..
Frank

Most if not all of that is covered inside this thread :)


Stacey

[fpkjr]

Most if not all of that is covered inside this thread :)

Stacey
I know I just woke up and realized that after I posted.. I thought I save the guy from having to search.



Frank

[j6ppc]

I received a PB 207 a little while ago from bonggoy's group buy (thanks again bonggoy).

It rocks.

Wish I had ordered 2.


Bests


Jon

[Baric]

Ive found this to be an excellent torch!

[Mister Moo]

When TxMatt talks and Catfish listens and then Catfish talks and I happen to be in the car (listening)...

I picked up a pair of the PB207s and, oo-rah, they are so just right - long time between refills, very industrial looking, sturdy built and a lid on a chain. Excellent advice Mark, Matt, etc. I have had a decent $9.95 crack lighter but it doesn't have a lid/cap. As such, a little bit of pocket lint finds it's way into the burner every so often and it's SNAFU'ed.

PB207 - YES!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/xenawarriorcat/Cigar/PB207lighterlr.jpg

[RPB67]

Got two myself.

I cant believe all the money I have spent on lighters in the past. This is one of the best lighters I have ever bought and used.

Congrats on yours and enjoy !

[ColdCuts]

OK, I understand this is a great lighter, and I would agree that performance is the most important aspect--by far--of any lighter, but can anyone recommend a reliable pocket torch lighter that doesn't look like scuba gear or cost upwards of $100? Yeah, I saw the other thread about the Ronson JetLite, but I was thinking of something more permanent. Maybe even a little classy/classic. Am I asking too much?

[ljbrandt]

Has any one seen or used any of these Blazer 'knock-offs'? Both look like they have the same manufactured design and one even claims to be made in the same factory as the Blazer.

Smokers Torch:
http://shop.vendio.com/targetrm/item/947380859/?s=1219055622
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ta/targetrm/A251C.jpg

&

Jetline torch
http://www.wholesalecigarlighter.com/jet-line-lighters-single.html
http://www.wholesalecigarlighter.com/images/jet-line/black_jet_line_single_torch_lighter_98-101-300h.jpg

[MNWanger]

Smokers Torch:
http://shop.vendio.com/targetrm/item/947380859/?s=1219055622
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ta/targetrm/A251C.jpg



Is it just me, or does it look like "PB-207" is on the cap in this pic?

[Mister Moo]

Is it just me, or does it look like "PB-207" is on the cap in this pic?Looks like it. Mine are two years old now - neither lost nor broken. Still excellent performers in regular use.

[TheRealBonger]

I love the PB-207, unfortunately mine is MIA at the time :hn :ssI am still looking and hopefully I just stashed it away somewhere strange. Time will tell if it shows back up, otherwise I need to put in another order and buy another great lighter.

[BamBam]

I just bought a PB-207 last night from Cigarmony....Can't wait to try it out

[vicvitola]

[quote=ljbrandt;1837303]Has any one seen or used any of these Blazer 'knock-offs'? Both look like they have the same manufactured design and one even claims to be made in the same factory as the Blazer.

My understanding is they actually aren't knock offs. Prince Blazer (hence the PB in PB207) is one company with Prince as the distributer in Asia and Blazer in the US. The are the same exact lighter with the exception on the child proofing and the label. If anyone has more knowledge on this perhaps they can clarify or correct me if I am misstaken.

[Josh Pip]

I agree... Da Klugs put some of these out as community torchs at Shack Herf '08 (Thanks Dave). It was the best lighter I used all weekend and I bummed a lot of lighters.

Pip

[roughrider]

Has any one seen or used any of these Blazer 'knock-offs'? Both look like they have the same manufactured design and one even claims to be made in the same factory as the Blazer.

Smokers Torch:
http://shop.vendio.com/targetrm/item/947380859/?s=1219055622
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ta/targetrm/A251C.jpg

&

Jetline torch
http://www.wholesalecigarlighter.com/jet-line-lighters-single.html
http://www.wholesalecigarlighter.com/images/jet-line/black_jet_line_single_torch_lighter_98-101-300h.jpg


I bought the Jetline Triple Torch awhile ago on ebay. It was a good lighter while it lasted. It lasted me about 3 weeks of light use. The damn igniter rod fell out for no reason. It looked/felt like a solid lighter. It wasn't dropped or heavily used. If you can get it for under $7 then it may be worth it.


I don't own a blazer yet but plan on picking one up. I also want to maybe get a micro torch.

[roughrider]

I saw a ton of cheap torch lighters while browsing dealextreme.com Many of them have reviews and videos. A couple of bucks and free shipping. It may be worth a try.

[Mister Moo]

Ewwwwww! I used a new Blazer today! The press-down starter button has a safety now - a little roller wheel thingie on the leading edge of the igniter button. You have to roll the wheel before you can press-to-ignite. Very... safe. Still one-handed operation. Still marked PB-207.

This is leading edge Blazer lighter crap, you all. You heard it first at CS.

[SHOE]

Ewwwwww! I used a new Blazer today! The press-down starter button has a safety now - a little roller wheel thingie on the leading edge of the igniter button. You have to roll the wheel before you can press-to-ignite. Very... safe. Still one-handed operation. Still marked PB-207.

This is leading edge Blazer lighter crap, you all. You heard it first at CS.

Yep, that thing pissed off my brother-in-law when he got his. He pryed it out with a pair of needle-nosed pliers and "viola" - all children are in danger again. :tu

[SHOE]

[quote=ljbrandt;1837303]Has any one seen or used any of these Blazer 'knock-offs'? Both look like they have the same manufactured design and one even claims to be made in the same factory as the Blazer.

My understanding is they actually aren't knock offs. Prince Blazer (hence the PB in PB207) is one company with Prince as the distributer in Asia and Blazer in the US. The are the same exact lighter with the exception on the child proofing and the label. If anyone has more knowledge on this perhaps they can clarify or correct me if I am misstaken.

YES. I have one of the Prince lighters. I got it in a group buy here a couple of years ago. I've used it daily since then and never had a problem. I even jumped in the lake with it, let it dry out in the sun for about an hour and it has performed perfectly. There is no child-proofing and the lid does have the PB-207 on it. I think the group buy was around $22.00 shipped from China. Everything about it is exactly like the Blazer except for what I stated earlier and the fact that it says "Prince Pocket Torch". Great lighter!!!

[ljbrandt]

[quote=vicvitola;1837853]

YES. I have one of the Prince lighters. I got it in a group buy here a couple of years ago. I've used it daily since then and never had a problem. I even jumped in the lake with it, let it dry out in the sun for about an hour and it has performed perfectly. There is no child-proofing and the lid does have the PB-207 on it. I think the group buy was around $22.00 shipped from China. Everything about it is exactly like the Blazer except for what I stated earlier and the fact that it says "Prince Pocket Torch". Great lighter!!!

The one I linked is called the "Smokers Pocket Torch" and sells for $14.85 on the website I linked...I wonder if it's the same as your Prince.

[ksibew]

Tired of spending money on expensive lighters that only work a short time so I bought the Ronson Jetlite. I found them at RiteAid and bought 4 for around $5 each. I have been using one for over a year and have not even opened the other packages. :tu Now I can spend all the money on cigars.
:pp

[pro2625]

Tired of spending money on expensive lighters that only work a short time so I bought the Ronson Jetlite. I found them at RiteAid and bought 4 for around $5 each. I have been using one for over a year and have not even opened the other packages. :tu Now I can spend all the money on cigars.
:pp

You can get those at walmart for $3

[vicvitola]

Ewwwwww! I used a new Blazer today! The press-down starter button has a safety now - a little roller wheel thingie on the leading edge of the igniter button. You have to roll the wheel before you can press-to-ignite. Very... safe. Still one-handed operation. Still marked PB-207.

This is leading edge Blazer lighter crap, you all. You heard it first at CS.

Child Proof gizmo easily foiled with quick flip of a small flat head screw driver Moo. You will never have to callus your thumb again :)

[DonnieW]

Has any one seen or used any of these Blazer 'knock-offs'? Both look like they have the same manufactured design and one even claims to be made in the same factory as the Blazer.

Smokers Torch:
http://shop.vendio.com/targetrm/item/947380859/?s=1219055622
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ta/targetrm/A251C.jpg



Being the factoid, hyper-critical/hyper-skeptical, forensicator that I am, I needed to research these. I ordered one, and while it seems to be of similar, though not exactly the same, quality to the Blazer - it is in fact NOT related to Blazer in any way, form, or fashion. A quick email to Blazer confirmed, as well as emphasized why one should steer away from knock-offs. Now, to find a real Blazer and re-coup my losses.

-------

"Hi Don,

Thank you for the e-mail.

That is not a Blazer Torch.
It’s an inferior knock-off made in China for about $1.50, hence the low cost.
Our items are made in Japan, not “the same factory in China”
We would never suggest buying them for obvious reasons.

There’s also a serious safety concern as well since it’s a poorly made item filled with butane that may sit in your pocket, car or home.
In our opinion, it’s not something you want lying around.

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Thank you.

Best regards,

(name removed)"

[Mister Moo]

...one should steer away from knock-offs. Now, to find a real Blazer and re-coup my losses.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/xenawarriorcat/Cigar/PB207lighterlr.jpg

As with all your Porsches, accept no substitute.

[DonnieW]

As with all your Porsches, accept no substitute.

No Karmann Ghia's?

[generic]

Tired of spending money on expensive lighters that only work a short time so I bought the Ronson Jetlite. I found them at RiteAid and bought 4 for around $5 each. I have been using one for over a year and have not even opened the other packages. :tu Now I can spend all the money on cigars.
:pp

I have both a JetLite and a Blazer, and they're not even comparable. Both are fairly reliable. But the Blazer gives a more even flame, holds more butane, has an easy adjustable flame, and most of all, you can use it for minutes without it getting hot. The JetLites get really hot really fast.

[n2advnture]

I have both a JetLite and a Blazer, and they're not even comparable. Both are fairly reliable. But the Blazer gives a more even flame, holds more butane, has an easy adjustable flame, and most of all, you can use it for minutes without it getting hot. The JetLites get really hot really fast.

:tu You beat me to it

[SeanGAR]

I ordered one, and while it seems to be of similar, though not exactly the same, quality to the Blazer - it is in fact NOT related to Blazer in any way, form, or fashion. A quick email to Blazer confirmed, as well as emphasized why one should steer away from knock-offs. Now, to find a real Blazer and re-coup my losses.

I have a couple of those as well as Prince PB207s from HK.

I have found the cheap knockoff to be pretty good. I'd expect a representative from PB would suggest that competing knockoffs are inferior and dangerous, although I am surprised they didn't say that buying a knockoff would bring 6 years of bad luck.