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IHT
01-09-2007, 12:25 AM
as a newbie, i tried Rattrays Hal o' the Wynd, which is excellent in its own right. on my return trip to the shop, i told them i wanted something with more kick, so they tossed me a tin of SG Bracken Flake (which i also reviewed), and that REALLY had a lot more kick.

i had learned shortly thereafter that Bracken Flake was almost identical to 1792 Flake except that there's an additive to 1792 called "tonquin".
well, the tin aromas are very distinct, that's for sure. when i first opened the Bracken, i loved the aroma. with the 1792, i thought i was in trouble, wasn't what i was groovin on...

well, i'm about halfway through the tin, and it's still a little too moist to give it a fair review. the tonquin additive takes some getting use to, and the 1792 does pack a pretty good nicotine whallop for those of you who need a good nic kick in the pants.

i have a small bowl i keep by my tins that i put moist baccy in to let dry out for a while. last night, i finally tried some erinmore flake (like nyquil in tobacco form - but wasn't bad), and there was a pinch worth left in the bowl. so, when i took out the 1792, i just put it in the bowl, mixed it all up and stuff my pipe with it.

so, not a fair review as it's still a little moist and mixed with leafy nyquil (erinmore flake).

this was the first time i've been able to smoke the 1792 without constant relights, and it made tons of smoke (that my wife actually likes the room note :confused: ). the ash was nice and soft, white as could be. the pipe i'm using for these "lakeland flakes" is not sufficiently broken in, so the edges didn't burn all the way, but no big deal.

flavors? well, hard to describe, but they take getting use to, that's for sure. you can really taste the tonquin when you smoke it. gives a nice tingle on the tongue, never any "bite" though. does hit you in the gut with the nicotine, it's strong stuff. really wish i could describe this, it's like a dark spice, kinda musty, like imagining someone smoking in an old attic on the finish.

will give another update when the tobac dries to where it's best.

if i had to give it a rank from 1-10, this would be a 7 for me. not bad at all, but you have to really groove on the tonquin flavor for it to be ranked any higher. you can't bash on the quality of the leaf, the thickness of the flakes, the burning qualities and all that - just the flavor is either for you, or it's not. and i'm on the fence so far, maybe when it dries out a bit more i might lean more toward an 8 rating.
it's recommended - you have to try a tin once, maybe you'll love it.

monsoon
01-09-2007, 12:30 AM
Great stuff indeed. I like to mix just a bit of heavily cased black cavendish with 1792 .. not to much, but just enough to sweeten it a little.

tzilt
01-14-2008, 01:05 PM
To me tonquin tastes like Vanilla and Licorice had a baby and that baby was raised by wolves in a swamp, but in a good way. :-P

IHT
01-14-2008, 02:44 PM
good analogy.
too bad i never came back to review this.

Mad Hatter
01-14-2008, 06:28 PM
good analogy.
too bad i never came back to review this.

Thanks for bumping this guys :gn

I have a tin of 1792 thats been sitting on my shelf sealed for two months. Now I'm gonna have to pop it tonight.

Mad Hatter
01-14-2008, 07:42 PM
Ok, I smoked it and seeing as its pretty one dimensional and straight-forward I'll just add a few comments.

After sticking my nose in the tin several times over a couple of minutes I finally realized what it reminded me of. Nasal snuff. Is that what you smelled Greg? (I also agree with the above comparison) I loaded it up, lit easily with a charring light. Yuk. This sucks! Two minutes later I'm thinking "this is pretty good", "no, this sucks!" and so on. About halfway it began tasting less like snuff and more like Bracken Flake, about the same time my chest began to tighten up, but the snuff was still there. I think there is a ton of nicotene in this. I never got the gut-punch but the tightness in the chest was totally new to me. My throat and lungs felt like I had inhaled a face full of black pepper (BTW I DIDN'T inhale). The snuff slowly subsided as it burned on into the bottom of the bowl and in the end it just tasted like Bracken Flake. Funny thing is I think after a few more bowls I might just like this.

IHT
01-14-2008, 10:11 PM
After sticking my nose in the tin several times over a couple of minutes I finally realized what it reminded me of. Nasal snuff. Is that what you smelled Greg?
never had nasal snuff, don't know if that's it or not.

Mad Hatter
01-14-2008, 11:13 PM
never had nasal snuff, don't know if that's it or not.

I just looked up Tonquin Flavouring (GB sp) on Yahoo. Shows Tonquin bean, tonka bean, tonque bean. Got some hits on herbalism, essences, a snuff shop and a snuff forum. LOL

http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/469/snuff-moistening-technique/

tzilt
01-14-2008, 11:49 PM
I just looked up Tonquin Flavouring (GB sp) on Yahoo. Shows Tonquin bean, tonka bean, tonque bean. Got some hits on herbalism, essences, a snuff shop and a snuff forum. LOL

Wow, good nose Mad Hatter!

tzilt
01-14-2008, 11:52 PM
Thanks for bumping this guys :gn


I actually thought the post was a week old instead of 1 year and 1 week old....takes me about 4 months to get used to the new year.

Will_S
01-15-2008, 12:43 AM
I like 1792 but I got to prefer bracken, its a great end of evening smoke and always comparitively light on the taste buds (compared to 1792 anyway)

I do have some 17 92 thats about a year old, been in an airtight mason jar most of theat time. Next time it warms up enough to make a long bowl feasible, maybe I'll give it a spin (or maybe vice versa) it is good stuff.

mcdevster
06-04-2008, 01:02 AM
I just tried three samuel gawith tobacos... squadron leader, full virginia, and 1792 flake... Oddly enough 1792 was my favorite - although I don't see it as an all day smoke for me... I grab squadron more often, but 1792 flake for me is a treat.. very odd flavor and smell to it - it is rich and quite mellow in a way - but very heavy nicotine very heavy room note..

Quick_nick
06-04-2008, 01:53 AM
I hated something about 1792 and I think it was the tonquin. I smoked one bowl and after I fisnished I knew I would never reach for it again. I kept it around for a month or so and never reached for it so I had to trade it off, just not my cup of tea.

Hermit
08-05-2008, 04:53 PM
I hate the taste of tonquin.
1792 is not for me!

Cheeto
08-08-2008, 05:10 PM
I just tried three samuel gawith tobacos... squadron leader, full virginia, and 1792 flake... Oddly enough 1792 was my favorite - although I don't see it as an all day smoke for me... I grab squadron more often, but 1792 flake for me is a treat.. very odd flavor and smell to it - it is rich and quite mellow in a way - but very heavy nicotine very heavy room note..

A once in awhile smoke for sure, I couldn't see myself puffing it often. With the heavy nicotine and large volume of smoke I always get out of this blend it's reserved for colder nights after a good dinner.

Sawyer
08-13-2008, 08:21 AM
A once in awhile smoke for sure, I couldn't see myself puffing it often. With the heavy nicotine and large volume of smoke I always get out of this blend it's reserved for colder nights after a good dinner.
It is a once in a while smoke for me as well even though I love it. It is because of the strength. I always smoke it in one of my smaller bowls as well. Since I quit smoking cigarettes, a lot of the higher nicotine tobaccos now send my head spinning if I am not careful. I wish they would make a tobacco with this flavoring but a little more mild. Maybe they do and I just don't know about it? I have taken to doing a 50/50 mix of this and Carter Hall. That doesn't really hit the spot like the straight up mixture does though.

paperairplane
08-17-2008, 11:39 PM
supposedly the SG cob plug is 1792 before it is cut into flakes - the tonquin is added after it is cut, so the larger cob has less surface area to absorb the flavoring

Sawyer
08-18-2008, 07:47 AM
supposedly the SG cob plug is 1792 before it is cut into flakes - the tonquin is added after it is cut, so the larger cob has less surface area to absorb the flavoring

I like the flavoring, I wish the tobacco was lighter in the nicotine department. Like if they made a Best Brown Flake with this topping I would be all over it.

paperairplane
08-21-2008, 11:59 PM
Just popped a tin - needs drying time for sure, but what a tin aroma - kind of like vanilla nyquil... really interesting flavors in the second third of a bowl, nice dark burley/ Va kind of flavors.

Even too damp, rubs out really easy, packs easy, lights well, smokes well. Flavorful without being cloying. Strong - I am not nic sensitive, but after a bowl of this I just wanted to sit and relax... I was using a tall, narrow cob. I am thinking this weekend I may have to try a large (thumb size bowl) briar, dry this out nicely and rub it out well. I am guessing I can make 30-40 mins of smoking this before heart palpitations kick in...

Much potential here, I think.

paperairplane
09-11-2008, 11:30 PM
Eyap - this is good. Not something I smoke every day, but I have found myself geting drawn back to the 1792. I have tried some different preparations, and I really think the only way to go is a gentle roll/stuff of large chunks of flake. Maybe some fully rubbed out on top to help the light. Definitely let this dry out a good bit.

There is not a good description for the casing on this tobacco. Really its own thing.

Just get a tin and try it out.