What kind of beer do you like with a cigar?

[Wetterhorn]

Okay gorillas, let's open a discussion on beer! :)

Being in Fort Collins, I have a variety of microbrews, with my favorites being from New Belgium brewery. I particuarly like the 1554 with a cigar. It is beer "beer is fermented at relatively high temperatures using a European lager yeast that imparts a refreshing, zesty acidity." (from the New Belgium site.) I like it because while it is dark, it is flat out smooth, but with a full taste! I have drank it with a variety of cigars, and it always go well with whatever cigar I am enjoying!

:u

[partagaspete]

I really can't decide on just one type but I'll narrow it down to a few (It really depends on the smoke too).

1. A good Pils (Pilsner Urquell, Bitburger)
2. Weizen
3. An english bitter
4. Guinness (Mmmm steak in a can)

"Beer is proof that God loves man"
-Ben Franklin

[Wetterhorn]

I really can't decide on just one type but I'll narrow it down to a few (It really depends on the smoke too).

1. A good Pils (Pilsner Urquell, Bitburger)
2. Weizen
3. An english bitter
4. Guinness (Mmmm steak in a can)

"Beer is proof that God loves man"
-Ben Franklin

OOOHH!! I'll have a Guinness too!!!!!!!!!

:D

[Lamar]

I tend to love the Belgium Beers, like Chimay and Duvel when I want something rich. I love the cascade hops in Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale and will go for just about anything from Samual Smith.

While I was in Kansas, I ran across a beer called Fat Tire that I enjoyed on an expense account tab that was incredible. Beyond those special beers, I can be found with a Pils Urquell on a hot day or even a nice Lambic when I want a good soda to sip on.

As you can tell, I am not too picky!

[Wetterhorn]

IWhile I was in Kansas, I ran across a beer called Fat Tire that I enjoyed on an expense account tab that was incredible.

Hey Lamar! That Fat Tire is the Fort Collins based New Belgium Brewery's most popular beer! New Belgium puts out excellent beer that sounds right up your alley. I don't know if they distribute to your area, but I would be happy to send you a sampler some time. Just let me know...

:u

[Jaxstraww]

Smithwicks and Chimay Red at the pub. Guiness at home.


My days of Miller Killer are behind me.

[KingMeatyHand]

Lamar is dead on, Chimay is very nice as is anything from Samuel Smith (especially the Nut Brown Ale and the Oatmeal Stout).

I also like Guinness, Bass, Kirin, Young's Double Chocolate Stout, Hacker-Pschorr, anything from Ybor Gold, Blue Moon Belguim White, Pilsner Urquell, Kingfisher, the list goes on...

As the great orator Homer once said;
Mmmm, beer.

[God]

Cold!!!!!

[partagaspete]

Lamar is dead on, Chimay is very nice as is anything from Samuel Smith (especially the Nut Brown Ale and the Oatmeal Stout).

I also like Guinness, Bass, Kirin, Young's Double Chocolate Stout, Hacker-Pschorr, anything from Ybor Gold, Blue Moon Belguim White, Pilsner Urquell, Kingfisher, the list goes on...

As the great orator Homer once said;
Mmmm, beer.

Nice list here... I must say though The Belgiens make the best beers PERIOD. If you get the chance to go there it is amazing. Each beer has its own glass (they treat their beers like the french do wine). Chimay is good, but is their version of Bud (bad analogy I know). My personal favorite is Brigand.

"Beer is proof that God loves man"
-Ben Franklin

[Wetterhorn]

Nice list here... I must say though The Belgiens make the best beers PERIOD. If you get the chance to go there it is amazing. Each beer has its own glass (they treat their beers like the french do wine). Chimay is good, but is their version of Bud (bad analogy I know). My personal favorite is Brigand.

"Beer is proof that God loves man"
-Ben Franklin

You know, I don't think I have ever had a Belgium... I like the 1554 by New Belgium and they supposedly brew beer in the Belgium style. Maybe that is why I like it, beats me? :confused:

[Wetterhorn]

Hey, I heard this on the radio and wondered if anyone could confirm or deny this report...

Budweiser is the #1 import in England!

[mr.c]

I think we can all agree that corona is a great beer (ducks and runs)

Seriosly though maybe I can learn from you wise beer masters, Have a cab of shorts and epi #2's comming and will be heading down to old chicago, out of these beers what do you recomend ?????

Anchor Steam - California


Bass Pale Ale - draft - England


Beck's Lager - Germany


Black & Tan - draft - The United Kingdom


Boddington's Pub Ale - England


Bud Light - Missouri


Budweiser - Missouri


Celebrator Doppelbock - Germany


Chimay Red Ale - Belgium


Coors Original - Colorado


Coors Light - Colorado


Corona Extra - Mexico


Dos Equis Amber Lager - Mexico


Foster's Lager - Australia


Grolsch Lager - The Netherlands


Guinness Stout - draft - Ireland


Harp Lager - Ireland


Heineken - The Netherlands


Hybrid- Smirnoff Ice Malt - Canada


Hybrid- Woodchuck Amber Cider - Vermont Ever try this ?? :pu


Hybrid- Zima Clear Malt - Colorado


J.W.Dundee Honey Brown Lager - New York


Killian's Irish Red Lager - Colorado


Kirin Lager - Japan


Labatt Blue Lager - Canada


Leinenkugel Red Lager - Wisconsin


Lindeman's Framboise Lambic - Belgium


Lindeman's Kreik Lambic - Belgium


McEwan's Scottish Ale - Scotland


Michelob Light - Missouri


Miller Genuine Draft - Wisconsin


Miller Lite - Wisconsin


Molson Golden Lager - Canada


Moosehead Lager - Canada


Murphy's Irish Stout - Ireland


Negra Modelo Dark Lager - Mexico


New Belgium Fat Tire Amber Ale - Colorado Maybe this ???


Newcastle Brown Ale - draft - England


Non- Alc- Paulaner Thomasbrau - Germany


Non- Alc- St. Pauli Girl - Germany


Old Peculier - England


Pacifico Clara - Mexico


Paulaner Hefe-Weizen - Germany


Peroni Lager - Italy


Pete's Wicked Ale - California


Pilsner Urquell - Czech Republic


Red Stripe Lager - Jamaica


Redhook E.S.B. - Washington


Rolling Rock - Pennsylvania


Samuel Adams Boston Lager - Massachusetts


Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale - England


Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout - England


Sapporo Lager - Japan


Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - California


St. Pauli Girl - Germany


Steinlager (Where Available) - New Zealand


Tecate Lager - Mexico


TsingTao Lager - China


Warsteiner Lager - Germany


Amstel Light - Netherlands


Stella Artois Pilsner - Belgium


Lowenbrau Lager - Germany


Ayinger Altbairisch Dunkel - Germany


Hybrid-Mikes Hard Lemonade - California


Mackeson Stout - England


Boulder Pass Time Pale Ale - Colorado


Boulder Planet Porter - Colorado


Boulder Sundance Amber Ale - Colorado


Hazed and Infused Dry Hopped Ale - Colorado

[El Rey del Mundo]

What about Kilkenny? Thats good beer!

[shelvingunit]

My #1 choice is Guinness.

I also like Samuel Smith, Bass, Peroni Red, Anchor Steam, Kirin Ichiban, Saranac Caramel Porter....I could go on and on...

[Wetterhorn]

I think we can all agree that corona is a great beer (ducks and runs)

Seriosly though maybe I can learn from you wise beer masters, Have a cab of shorts and epi #2's comming and will be heading down to old chicago, out of these beers what do you recomend ?????

Anchor Steam - California


Bass Pale Ale - draft - England


Beck's Lager - Germany


Black & Tan - draft - The United Kingdom


Boddington's Pub Ale - England


Bud Light - Missouri


Budweiser - Missouri


Celebrator Doppelbock - Germany


Chimay Red Ale - Belgium


Coors Original - Colorado


Coors Light - Colorado


Corona Extra - Mexico


Dos Equis Amber Lager - Mexico


Foster's Lager - Australia


Grolsch Lager - The Netherlands


Guinness Stout - draft - Ireland


Harp Lager - Ireland


Heineken - The Netherlands


Hybrid- Smirnoff Ice Malt - Canada


Hybrid- Woodchuck Amber Cider - Vermont Ever try this ?? :pu


Hybrid- Zima Clear Malt - Colorado


J.W.Dundee Honey Brown Lager - New York


Killian's Irish Red Lager - Colorado


Kirin Lager - Japan


Labatt Blue Lager - Canada


Leinenkugel Red Lager - Wisconsin


Lindeman's Framboise Lambic - Belgium


Lindeman's Kreik Lambic - Belgium


McEwan's Scottish Ale - Scotland


Michelob Light - Missouri


Miller Genuine Draft - Wisconsin


Miller Lite - Wisconsin


Molson Golden Lager - Canada


Moosehead Lager - Canada


Murphy's Irish Stout - Ireland


Negra Modelo Dark Lager - Mexico


New Belgium Fat Tire Amber Ale - Colorado Maybe this ???


Newcastle Brown Ale - draft - England


Non- Alc- Paulaner Thomasbrau - Germany


Non- Alc- St. Pauli Girl - Germany


Old Peculier - England


Pacifico Clara - Mexico


Paulaner Hefe-Weizen - Germany


Peroni Lager - Italy


Pete's Wicked Ale - California


Pilsner Urquell - Czech Republic


Red Stripe Lager - Jamaica


Redhook E.S.B. - Washington


Rolling Rock - Pennsylvania


Samuel Adams Boston Lager - Massachusetts


Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale - England


Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout - England


Sapporo Lager - Japan


Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - California


St. Pauli Girl - Germany


Steinlager (Where Available) - New Zealand


Tecate Lager - Mexico


TsingTao Lager - China


Warsteiner Lager - Germany


Amstel Light - Netherlands


Stella Artois Pilsner - Belgium


Lowenbrau Lager - Germany


Ayinger Altbairisch Dunkel - Germany


Hybrid-Mikes Hard Lemonade - California


Mackeson Stout - England


Boulder Pass Time Pale Ale - Colorado


Boulder Planet Porter - Colorado


Boulder Sundance Amber Ale - Colorado


Hazed and Infused Dry Hopped Ale - Colorado

I am 10 away from completing my first tour at Old Chicago! :) I have had most of the beers on your list! The Woodchuck is good if you want to start a barfarama! So is ZIMA! - barfmania there! :r

I definietly have had all of the Colorado brews, and you are right, Fat Tire is from the New Belgium brewery in Fort Collins where I live. It is a fine beer, although like I have said in my previous posts, I prefer the New Belgium 1554. Frankly, I prefer all of the Fort Collins micro-brews to the Boulder ones. Simply put, they are more tasty!

A brewery here brews green chilli beer! Man, it is really good!

As for Mexican beers, I prefer Pacifico to Corona. Smoother and tastier IMHO.

I think you will go right with almost all of the beers on your list!

Now, on another note... Fort Collins has banned smoking in public establishments and I can no longer enjoy a stogie at Old Chicago! Man, that chaps my you know what!

[partagaspete]

I'd go with the Guinness, Harp, or Bass.

[kamikaiguy]

My favorite Beers

Bodington's Pub ale

Penn Pilsner

Yeungling

Sapporo

[kamikaiguy]

Oh and of course how could i Forget Being from Pittsburgh and all!!!!

Iron City

and

Rolling Rock

[partagaspete]

My favorite Beers

Bodington's Pub ale

Penn Pilsner

Yeungling

Sapporo


Bodingtons...The cream of Manchester :al

[kamikaiguy]

Partagaspete

Bodington's is a great beer. I was turned on to it by a little english pub that open across the street from where I used to work.

[Wetterhorn]

Partagaspete

Bodington's is a great beer. I was turned on to it by a little english pub that open across the street from where I used to work.

Bodington's is by far my favorite brit beer! Smooth and creamy! Great, great beer!!!!! Gosh, I wish I had one right now (and I am on duty!!!!).

:al

[cwaddell_1]

I like Guinness, Bass, Harp, and New Castle if I am drinking beer while I smoke.

I have heard great things about Fat Tire but have never had it. I have never seen it here in Knoxville. :mad:

[partagaspete]

Partagaspete

Bodington's is a great beer. I was turned on to it by a little english pub that open across the street from where I used to work.


When I get to England I plan on going by the factory... What is really great is the small independant bitters and ales.

"Mmmmm beer the cause of and aolution to all of lifes problems."
-Homer J. Simpson

[Wetterhorn]

When I get to England I plan on going by the factory... What is really great is the small independant bitters and ales.

"Mmmmm beer the cause of and aolution to all of lifes problems."
-Homer J. Simpson

You will have to let us know how the factory tour was!

[coppertop]

If he remembers :al :al :al :pu

[SFCEd]

My list in order:

1.Free
2.Guinness
3.Bass
4.Pilsner Urquell
5.Killians red
6.XX
7.Ultra, if I'm feeling guilty. :al

[partagaspete]

My list in order:

1.Free
2.Guinness
3.Bass
4.Pilsner Urquell
5.Killians red
6.XX
7.Ultra, if I'm feeling guilty. :al


If you like Killians try Kilkenney (sp?) it is from the makers of Guinness (in fact it's been around longer)

T

[Wetterhorn]

Tonight I enjoyed a New Belgium Abbey with one of the best cigars I have ever had - a Romeo y Julieta Edicion Limitada Robusto!

The cigar was unbelievable (read my post in tonights smoke in the Habanos Lounge if you are interested), but let me get to the beer.

Abbey (if you are where you can pick up New Belgium beer, I would suggest this one as a nice desert beer) has a taste of ripe fig, caramel, coffee bean and cloves. It has a mahogany color and is so complex it is quite fascinating!

A great beer to sit down with and enjoy a complex cigar. They compliment each other perfectly!

[partagaspete]

Tonight I enjoyed a New Belgium Abbey with one of the best cigars I have ever had - a Romeo y Julieta Edicion Limitada Robusto!

The cigar was unbelievable (read my post in tonights smoke in the Habanos Lounge if you are interested), but let me get to the beer.

Abbey (if you are where you can pick up New Belgium beer, I would suggest this one as a nice desert beer) has a taste of ripe fig, caramel, coffee bean and cloves. It has a mahogany color and is so complex it is quite fascinating!

A great beer to sit down with and enjoy a complex cigar. They compliment each other perfectly!


Sounds like a wondeful evening...The beer sounds like a traditional Trappist in style Mmmm good stuff.

BTW Folks Bitburger does not go well with cigars (I would assume Warsteiner would be included in this appraisal). The bitterness just sucks the flavor from the smoke. IMHO

[Wetterhorn]

Sounds like a wondeful evening...The beer sounds like a traditional Trappist in style Mmmm good stuff.


You have got it exactly right! :)

[kamikaiguy]

I'll have a

Bier Bitzch pleeeeeeease!!!!!!!

http://www.bierbitzch.com

[Wetterhorn]

Oh, it is so very tough to live in Fort Collins, Colorado. Click on this link to see that Fort Collins only has six breweries! :D

http://www.ftcollins.com/Media%20Center%20Pages/breweries.htm

At Coopersmiths, the brewery produces a brew called Sigda's Green Chili.
They use Anaheim and Serrano chilis to add some heat to this crisp golden ale. It's not too hot and has a good chili flavor. I have never had a cigar with this tasty beer, but I would really like to!

:u

[FrankB]

In no particular order, but I do subscribe to the theory of darker the wrapper, darker the beer. Raison de Etre by Dogfish Head, Immort Ale, also by Dogfish Head, 90 Minute IPA, by the same, Victory Storm King Imperial Stout, Bell's Expedition Stout, Old Rasputin Imperial Stout, Allagash Tripel, Troegg Doublebock, Old Stock Ale by North Coast. All of these are high octane, really big beers that will overpower lesser cigars so you have to be selective in what you smoke. Frank B

[Wetterhorn]

In no particular order, but I do subscribe to the theory of darker the wrapper, darker the beer. Raison de Etre by Dogfish Head, Immort Ale, also by Dogfish Head, 90 Minute IPA, by the same, Victory Storm King Imperial Stout, Bell's Expedition Stout, Old Rasputin Imperial Stout, Allagash Tripel, Troegg Doublebock, Old Stock Ale by North Coast. All of these are high octane, really big beers that will overpower lesser cigars so you have to be selective in what you smoke. Frank B

Excellent theory! I will have to try it!!!

:)

[viesturs]

Grasshopper wheat Ale made by Big Rock brewery

[Wetterhorn]

Grasshopper wheat Ale made by Big Rock brewery

And where might I come across some of this summer beer? I would love to try it!!!!!

:confused:

[JoeyBogus]

Guinness, Newcastle Brown, and Becks Dark get my votes. I usually steer clear of beers since I'm trying to do the low carb thing, though...

[aeroswat]

in this small town I live, i cant get nothing that good, usually some colt45 or keystone :pu then you can go to town :al :w :z

[Ganz]

Cold :rolleyes:

[Wetterhorn]

I have enjoyed the posts in this thread very much, but thought I should give you all a warning - NEVER LET YOUR DOG DRINK BEER!

As you can see from the link below, it can be quite harmful to your pet!

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug_2002/BeerDog.jpg

[summerkc]

My favorite beer is Samual Smith's Taddy Porter, if you like Guniess, you'll love suckin on a Taddy!

My favorite local beer is the New Albany Brewing Co.'s Community Dark, it is one of the best all around beers I have ever had.

My favorite "cheapo" beer would have to be Killian's Irish Red

All are great with cigars, but then again, what isn't? :D

[viesturs]

Sorry, wetterhorn but i'm usually only online on weekends lately because of work. Anyway, i'm not sure where in the US you can get Big Rock beer. It's brewed here in Alberta and is sold in some other provinces. Grasshopper is a nice wheat ale that goes good with a lemon wedge.It doesn't really cleanse the palet so is ideal for matching with a cigar.

[Wetterhorn]

Sorry, wetterhorn but i'm usually only online on weekends lately because of work. Anyway, i'm not sure where in the US you can get Big Rock beer. It's brewed here in Alberta and is sold in some other provinces. Grasshopper is a nice wheat ale that goes good with a lemon wedge.It doesn't really cleanse the palet so is ideal for matching with a cigar.

Well, perhaps I shall have to get up your way and try one out! My buddy's son is going to be going to school in Calgary, and I bet I will be up there once to visit. If so, I have Big Rock Grasshopper on my list!

Thanks for the recommendation!!!!

:)

[txmatt]

Currently in my "beer crispers" (bottom drawers of the fridge).
I make a point to try all beer with cigars.
:al :al
1) Young's Old Nick
2) Young's Double Chocolate Stout
3) Shiner Hefeweizen
4) Erdinger Hefe-Weizen
5) Duvel
6) Paulaner Salvatore
:al :al
Be careful when mixing barley ales with strong cigars! I F'd myself up bigtime last Friday by drinking an Old Nick while smoking a Bucanero Salsa.

I am also a big fan of Chimay while out like many of you mentioned. Noone seems to carry pints of it anymore - just those stupid ass wine size bottles w/the champagne cork. Until they put it back into 4's or 6'ers I will stick with Orval and Duvel.

I used to be bigtime Young's Winter Brew whore, but it hasn't been around in a few years now. I am still looking for a "beef stew in a bottle" beer as it was.

[kellydontwanttasleep]

i don't really drink. once every other month i'll have 1 glass of red wine or 1 beer, and a couple days ago i tried a dead guy beer on draft. that beer kicks ass and i had it with a isom H. Upmann Magnum 46 :p oooooooo that was heaven :D

[(909)]

I like Molson Canadian (not the one sold in the U.S.). I also like Widmer Hefewiezen and a lot of other Widmer products. Widmer makes a variety and it's all good stuff. Widmer is Northwest brewed and is sometimes hard to get in So Cal.

[WillyGT]

I like Heineken, Fosters, Negra Modelo, And Mexicali beer. All of the ice cold :)

[SeanGAR]

Stone IPA, 3Floyds Dark Lord, Dogfishhead 90minute IPA, Old Dominion Tupper's Hop pocket Pils, Victory Prima Pils, Fuller's ESB, Trois Pistoles. Those are standbys, as well as my homebrew. I like the trois pistoles with most cigars, but the dark lord with maduros.

[glovepuppy]

as well as my homebrew.

Hey SeanGAR,

A friend and I are getting into the homebrew. We are just starting to venture out from the kits to our own recipes. You seem to have some similar tastes with us, you got any good recipes for us to try?

Thanks,
pjg

[SeanGAR]

GP,

I teach a Brewing Science class here and I make all malt beers, mostly lagers in the past, but for my class this semester we will make ales as my fridge that I use to ferment at 8-12 °C is down.

I usually like to go where others have not gone so I make recipies up using Promash or equivalent software. My last beer for class was a Northern Brown Ale. Recipe below, I'll be bottling next week, it will be excellent based on preliminary tasting (hehe). I don't use malt extracts at all so I can't help y'all out there much. I wrote in a few comments in brackets.

Now, this is a rather light Brown ale that is a session beer. Designed to be acceptable to the majority of people that try it. I have mainly been doing decoction mashing to clone Pilsner Urquell or make it a bit stronger, so I've not had my hand in ales other than the ones for class for several years.

Do you use grains, malt extracts or a mix? I can play around with promash and set something up if you give me a style of beer you're trying to emulate. The brown ale below is an attempt at cloning Sam Smith's Nut Brown Ale, although I tossed in some Amarillo because I'm rather fond of them in ales. I may try to clone Stone IPA....a wickedly tasty beer. One place has that on tap intown and I'm planning on going there for supper one day this week. :-)

I normally make 10 gallon batches but dropped this one because I didn't want so much leftover beer that the students would want to take some home, a legal nono.

Sean

Big Ugly Brother's Brown Ale (BUBBA)
(Northern Brown Ale)

GRAINS HOPS
6.5# Pale ale Amarillo 1/4 oz t-60
1# Munich EKG 5.0% plugs 0.75 oz t-40
1# Brown Fuggles 4.4% pellets 0.75 oz t-20
1/2# 20 Crystal
1/4# Chocolate

Promash calculations
5.0 gal to ferment
1044 @ 70% mash efficiency
11.0 °P
26.9 IBUs

Yeast Starting
I started yeast 3 days before brewing. I added 100g light DME to 1L freshly boiled water. Cooled, shaken a lot to get oxygen in solution. Add tube of White Labs London Ale. I cover with foil, but no air lock.

Irish Moss, 2T hydrated in hot water at beginning of mash.

Boil 11 gallons of water for 20 minutes, removes chlorine
Add salts to make moderately carbonate water
2g CaSO4
6g MgSO4
1g NaCl
1g NaHCO3
9g CaCO3
(based on our soft water here, you need a local water analysis to
be sure the water is appropriate for the style)

Infusion mash 65.5-66 °C x 60 minutes
(we hit 66 dead on)

Add grains to cooler. Dough in for thick mash, get 65.5-66 C.

Add 3.2 gals to dough in, temp higher than grains, ~70C.

Hold at 65.5-66 C for 60 minutes. Add hot water to keep temp up but try to keep mash thick. (temp correction not needed)

Return mash to kettle and heat to 72 °C, hold for 5 minutes.

Lauter into bucket, add sparge water slowly, collect wort until reach 0.5 °P.


Boil
Bring to boil. Add 1/4 oz Amarillo
Boil 20 minutes, then add EKGs. T-40.
Boil 20 more minutes, add Fuggles. T-20.
Add Irish moss at this time too.

At T=0, stop boil and transfer quickly into cooler to chill. Want to chill everything as fast as possible. Let it settle for 20 minutes or so to get the hot break well settled on the bottom.

AFTER THE BOIL IT IS CRITICAL THAT EVERYTHING BE CAREFULLY SANITIZED THAT GOES ANYWHERE NEAR THE BEER. I use iodophore solution.

Transfer into primary ensuring that foaming takes place to oxygenate the wort.

Add yeast slurry to cooled wort, put on blowoff tube & set up. (instead of a blowoff tube, I ended up doing the primary fermentation in a covered bucket)

[Brandon]

Finally able to get the stuff I really like here in GA... now that beers above 6%ABV are available. I had a some Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale this weekend that was mighty tasty. Next to Chimay Grande Reserve and Duvel, this is now one of my favorites. I'm not a big fan of hoppy beers. I prefer the yeasty, malty, fruity ales.

[glovepuppy]

GP,

I teach a Brewing Science class here and I make all malt beers, mostly lagers in the past, but for my class this semester we will make ales as my fridge that I use to ferment at 8-12 °C is down.

I usually like to go where others have not gone so I make recipies up using Promash or equivalent software. My last beer for class was a Northern Brown Ale. Recipe below, I'll be bottling next week, it will be excellent based on preliminary tasting (hehe). I don't use malt extracts at all so I can't help y'all out there much. I wrote in a few comments in brackets.

Now, this is a rather light Brown ale that is a session beer. Designed to be acceptable to the majority of people that try it. I have mainly been doing decoction mashing to clone Pilsner Urquell or make it a bit stronger, so I've not had my hand in ales other than the ones for class for several years.

Do you use grains, malt extracts or a mix? I can play around with promash and set something up if you give me a style of beer you're trying to emulate. The brown ale below is an attempt at cloning Sam Smith's Nut Brown Ale, although I tossed in some Amarillo because I'm rather fond of them in ales. I may try to clone Stone IPA....a wickedly tasty beer. One place has that on tap intown and I'm planning on going there for supper one day this week. :-)

I normally make 10 gallon batches but dropped this one because I didn't want so much leftover beer that the students would want to take some home, a legal nono.

Sean

Big Ugly Brother's Brown Ale (BUBBA)
(Northern Brown Ale)

GRAINS HOPS
6.5# Pale ale Amarillo 1/4 oz t-60
1# Munich EKG 5.0% plugs 0.75 oz t-40
1# Brown Fuggles 4.4% pellets 0.75 oz t-20
1/2# 20 Crystal
1/4# Chocolate

Promash calculations
5.0 gal to ferment
1044 @ 70% mash efficiency
11.0 °P
26.9 IBUs

Yeast Starting
I started yeast 3 days before brewing. I added 100g light DME to 1L freshly boiled water. Cooled, shaken a lot to get oxygen in solution. Add tube of White Labs London Ale. I cover with foil, but no air lock.

Irish Moss, 2T hydrated in hot water at beginning of mash.

Boil 11 gallons of water for 20 minutes, removes chlorine
Add salts to make moderately carbonate water
2g CaSO4
6g MgSO4
1g NaCl
1g NaHCO3
9g CaCO3
(based on our soft water here, you need a local water analysis to
be sure the water is appropriate for the style)

Infusion mash 65.5-66 °C x 60 minutes
(we hit 66 dead on)

Add grains to cooler. Dough in for thick mash, get 65.5-66 C.

Add 3.2 gals to dough in, temp higher than grains, ~70C.

Hold at 65.5-66 C for 60 minutes. Add hot water to keep temp up but try to keep mash thick. (temp correction not needed)

Return mash to kettle and heat to 72 °C, hold for 5 minutes.

Lauter into bucket, add sparge water slowly, collect wort until reach 0.5 °P.


Boil
Bring to boil. Add 1/4 oz Amarillo
Boil 20 minutes, then add EKGs. T-40.
Boil 20 more minutes, add Fuggles. T-20.
Add Irish moss at this time too.

At T=0, stop boil and transfer quickly into cooler to chill. Want to chill everything as fast as possible. Let it settle for 20 minutes or so to get the hot break well settled on the bottom.

AFTER THE BOIL IT IS CRITICAL THAT EVERYTHING BE CAREFULLY SANITIZED THAT GOES ANYWHERE NEAR THE BEER. I use iodophore solution.

Transfer into primary ensuring that foaming takes place to oxygenate the wort.

Add yeast slurry to cooled wort, put on blowoff tube & set up. (instead of a blowoff tube, I ended up doing the primary fermentation in a covered bucket)

:confused: :confused:
You are light years ahead of us. I'm not real sure how to respond to this except to thank you, of course, for taking the time to write this all out. I will print this off and have my buddy look at it. He reads books on brewing so he might know what some of it is.

Very impressive though. Wish you were closer to home so I could sign up for your class. :cool:

pjg

[txmatt]

Finally able to get the stuff I really like here in GA... now that beers above 6%ABV are available. I had a some Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale this weekend that was mighty tasty. Next to Chimay Grande Reserve and Duvel, this is now one of my favorites. I'm not a big fan of hoppy beers. I prefer the yeasty, malty, fruity ales.


Ditto there Brandon! Take a bottle of the Grand Reserve and lay it down for a year to 18 months, it really improves! I drink a LOT of Duvel. I got to try Rochefort 10 last week and I have a new favorite beer. Unfortunately its harder than hell to find and when you do find it you have to shell out $6 to $9 a bottle.

-Matt-

[zemekone]

Any Hefeweizen... easy as that huh?