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falconpunch99

03-01-2005, 10:48 PM

Was just wondering if there were any Club Stogie Aggies(WHOOP!!) lurking around the Jungle to talk about football with?

TheSmokingHiker

03-01-2005, 11:31 PM

Boomer Sooner :D

falconpunch99

03-02-2005, 09:07 AM

Boomer Sooner :D

Ah yes, our neighbors to the north. Still feeling the burn of our encounter two years ago. Man, every time I see that Peterson run it makes want to invent a time machine to go back and somehow try to get him to sign with A&M. I'm really interested to see how OU will fair out this year, because when it comes down to it despite any in conference rivalries I always go for the Big 12 teams in Bowl Games, minus Tech of course.

FunkyPorcini

03-02-2005, 10:23 AM

Class of '98

Long live Texas Aggie Bonfr

TheSmokingHiker

03-02-2005, 01:05 PM

Ah yes, our neighbors to the north. Still feeling the burn of our encounter two years ago. Man, every time I see that Peterson run it makes want to invent a time machine to go back and somehow try to get him to sign with A&M. I'm really interested to see how OU will fair out this year, because when it comes down to it despite any in conference rivalries I always go for the Big 12 teams in Bowl Games, minus Tech of course.

As far as 2 years ago, all is forgotten. I agree with you about bowl games. I am big 12 all the way. Lets not talk about USC...

falconpunch99

03-02-2005, 02:41 PM

As far as 2 years ago, all is forgotten. I agree with you about bowl games. I am big 12 all the way. Lets not talk about USC...

On the Big 12 and OU, I think OU will be in a up hill battle for the next few years, maybe not this year but definitely in two or three years to come. The reason I say that is because Brown and Stoops really benefited from the Slocum slue of non-recruiting which allowed Texas and OU to have the top picks from TX. Now with Fran hitting the recruiting job hard (we just picked up our 4th recruit for 06' a few days ago) OU and Texas have their work cut out for them. Bennett is a good example of this. Stoops has lost some of his most important staff which help make the OU of 02' 03' and 04'. And what is with White and his Bowl game gitter!!! Also we must remember that college football is cyclical; USC is helped out from a total domination over the top guys coming out of California. I just hope to God someone beats the HELL out of em'. I'm tired of seeing Big 12 teams beat in Bowl games. The Big 12 South is the hardest most competitive conference in football, and when we get beat that doesn't help our image.

AF MAN

03-03-2005, 01:38 PM

AGGIES?:p

galaga

03-03-2005, 01:46 PM

......... The Big 12 South is the hardest most competitive conference in football

Oh, really :bx For the last few years I would have to say the SEC was the HMCCIF, but you know now, I might have to say that everyone might have to take a back seat to the ACC. Just my HUMBLE opinion, of course.

, and when we get beat that doesn't help our image.

I couldn't agree more

Wetterhorn

03-03-2005, 02:07 PM

All I can say about the Big 12 South is this:

Orange Bowl - USC 55, Oklahoma 19 (the score was closer than the game!)

Cotton Bowl - Tennessee 38, Texas A&M 7 (so much for home field advantage!)

Alamo Bowl - Ohio St. 33, Oklahoma St. 7 (Boy, the Buckeyes were powerful - not!)

Holiday Bowl - Texas Tech 45, California 31 (Good win over a team that had no interest in being there...)

Rose Bowl - Texas 38, Michigan 37 (Great game between two over-rated squads!)

Final Big 12 South Bowl Record - 2 wins, 3 losses

Combined score: Opponents 194, Big 12 South 116

And it really helps the Big 12 South that Baylor is in with them - almost a bye (Whoops, sorry Aggies, forgot you LOST to the Bears :D ). Then getting to play the Sisters of the Poor from the Big 12 North to pad the record.

And this is supposed to be the hardest, toughest division in College Football?
GIVE ME A BREAK!

What the Big 12 is the VERY BEST at is promoting themselves. The conference hype machine always promotes itself as the very best football conference in the nation and rarely does it come through. Remember when Colorado (my least favorite school of all time - what an ethical fortress they have in Boulder!) beat Texas in the Big 12 Championship game and made noise that the Buffs should be playing Miami instead of Nebraska. Then Oregon cleans their clock and Miami hands it to Nebraska? Neither CU or NU should have been there! But the hype gets them into the BS, oh sorry, BCS bowls.

Of course, my favorite conference had the best Bowl record. Can anyone name that conference?

:)

BTW - do I sound a bit bitter toward the Big 12? :bx :r

galaga

03-03-2005, 02:14 PM

What, the MAC (don't you just love how we hi-jacked this thread!)

Wetterhorn

03-03-2005, 02:42 PM

What, the MAC (don't you just love how we hi-jacked this thread!)

Nope, wasn't the MAC!

:cool:

galaga

03-03-2005, 03:24 PM

Nope, wasn't the MAC!

:cool:

Then CUSA...

Wetterhorn

03-03-2005, 04:39 PM

Then CUSA...

Nope, try again! :D

galaga

03-03-2005, 05:46 PM

Nope, try again! :D

I'll let the aggies guess, my brain's fried.

falconpunch99

03-03-2005, 08:48 PM

Steal the thread.....yeah right

Yes this was a bad year for the Big 12 (esp. Neb. and OU in the Championship), but you guys totally disregarded what I said, NCAA football is cyclical. Teams and conferences have ups and downs. I wouldn't clump the ACC in with the SEC and Big 12 though. The ACC has V Tech., Miami, FS and that's about it (G Tech. and Vir sometimes have good years, and Maryland usually does good in recruiting, but that's all. remember that before this year the ACC didn't have V Tech., Vir, and Miami, and was dominated by FS). Plus I didn't even talk about the SEC in my earlier posts, seeing that all my comments were about the Big 12, but if I stepped on anyone’s toes with the last few lines, sorry. Yes, the SEC is a hard conference. Despite how you guys tried to bash the Big 12 remember this:

2004 Conference Records
Big 12 (73-55)
SEC (73-56)
ACC (71-57)

falconpunch99

03-03-2005, 08:51 PM

Can anyone name that conference?

WAC????
:D

Wetterhorn

03-04-2005, 10:13 AM

WAC????
:D

Negative!

A hint - the conference won a BCS bowl....

:confused:

Wetterhorn

03-04-2005, 10:16 AM

2004 Conference Records
Big 12 (73-55)
SEC (73-56)
ACC (71-57)

Hey, my friend, look at the overwhelming number of home non-conference games the Big 12 plays. Of course, all the BCS conference teams play too many home games in non-conference play. Thus, I would say that overall records prove very little, what matters is what the conferences do in the post-season.

:ms

Funnymantrip

03-04-2005, 02:19 PM

Wetterhorn

03-04-2005, 02:49 PM

I don't think you can really count all the bowls for overall conference strenght anymore. Besides the BCS screwing up the national championship, I think it has taken the luster off of A lot of bowls. No big conference football school is happy with a non bcs bowl. I don't care what they try to make you believe.

I absolutely agree with you! The BCS is the worst thing that has happened to college football. It was so much better when you woke up on New Year's Day knowing that any number of things could happen that could result in a National Champion. I remember when Notre Dame was ranked like 6th or 7th and beat #1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl and then watching as every team ahead of the Irish lost! What an exciting day (and I'm not even a ND fan!)!

I wish we would get back to those days or that a playoff would be instituted. But I don't see a playoff happening in Division I-A because of that green stuff that the bowls spread around. But I do believe the system must change because so many bowls, even BCS bowls, are absolutely meaningless.

:ms

Funnymantrip

03-04-2005, 04:10 PM

Wetterhorn

03-05-2005, 11:46 AM

I would be in favor of opening up the entire bowl system. I think the automatic tie ins are horrible. I understand how the bowls feel about locking in teams in conferences, but the Big 10 #5 against the WAC #3 every year is killing me. I think you would get more interest back if bowls could offer bids to teams to try and get better games. A few years ago a USF team got shut out of the bowls b/c they did not have any conference affiliation, only had 2 losses on the year and beat some Big East and Conf USA schools. This past year, I would loved to have seen Louisville and Boise State play other big name schools rather than eachother.
I think the best thing of letting the bowls choose schools would be the long run. Take a small school now, have them play some named schools in bowl games. If they win, the next year they could keep moving up the ladder. Opposed to winning the conference and being stuck in the Continental Tire Bowl year in and year out.

You are absolutely correct! (Of course I wouldn't expect anything less from a Man Utd. fan! :) ) It would make for a much better bowl season. For example, why on earth didn't Utah play Auburn?

Another reform I would like to see is for the NCAA to have a 12 game season where each team is required to play 6 at home and 6 on the road. Much more fair and representative of a team's true strength.

And the answer to the conference with the best bowl record, winning 67%, is the Mountain West!

New Mexico lost to Navy.

Wyoming beat UCLA

Utah beat Pittsburgh

falconpunch99

03-08-2005, 06:29 PM

What do you think will happen to the Utes with Meyer gone, are you mad about that or whats your thought?

Wetterhorn

03-09-2005, 11:16 AM

What do you think will happen to the Utes with Meyer gone, are you mad about that or whats your thought?

Urban Meyer coached at my alma mater, Colorado State, so I am pretty familiar with him. I think the Utes will take a step back, but not much of one. Losing QB Smith will hurt them, no doubt, but they will run the same offense and have a lot of guys back on defense, so they will be okay.

Coaches are always trying to upgrade their position. I thought Meyer would go to Notre Dame and was quite surprise that he went to Florida. He has a chance to really do something in the SEC with his offense.

It shall be interesting... :)

Funnymantrip

03-10-2005, 10:02 AM

he went to Florida. He has a chance to really do something in the SEC with his offense.

It shall be interesting... :)

I don't agree with you on that. I don't think his offense is going to be the dominant force in the SEC. Don't forget UF had a pretty good offense under Spurrier and in a way the SEC caught up to it. I am not going to say the Myer offense is gimmicky, but he came from a league that had a longstanding tradition of not playing defense. Come Saturdays in the SEC the people on the defensive side of the ball are as good as the offense. He is going to have to do a bit of adapting to that. Florida is one of the best jobs in the country if not the best (yes and I am a Nole), Myer will win there and after Zook they will be happy to give him the time to win.

galaga

03-10-2005, 11:45 AM

............Come Saturdays in the SEC the people on the defensive side of the ball are as good as the offense. He is going to have to do a bit of adapting to that. .......

I'll second that! We'll see what kind of genius he is with what he does with the kids that Zook already had in there, because he already has a great young offense if it can come into FSU's home field and give the Seminole defense fits...that ain't easy to do. I think that game showed that Zook had done a good job, I don't think they gave him enough time.

Funnymantrip

03-10-2005, 01:43 PM

I agree with you there Galaga. Zook was a great recruiter on both sides of the ball. He was able, even from his first year there to win games that most people thought he would not. LSU, UT, FSU last year. The losses to MSU are what killed him. Especially the losses at home. Gators hate losing in the swamp.

The thing with Myer that makes me wonder is his ethics policy. All of his past jobs he did not allow for any off field stuff. You broke rules you were punished. He is at a tough place at UF. Gators will like to mention the Free Shoes and Peter Warrick, but they tend to forget they have their own problems with Keg Throwers, Fights at bars, Stealing from High school kids and beating some kid with a scooter. Bottom line all 3 schools don't have a roster full of altar boys. If Myer sticks with that policy he is going to alienate a lot of people. If he does not stick with it, he is going to get a lot of flack. Much more than they give Bobby for giving second chances.
Still this state is much more fun when all 3 schools are good at the same time. I think we have that again next year.

SnowDeath

03-10-2005, 07:24 PM

I'm an aggie :cool: . I'm currently a freshman at A&M Galveston working on getting my 3rd mate license w/ a marine science degree. :D

falconpunch99

03-19-2005, 01:47 PM

How do you guys think Spurrier's cocks will do next year and beyond (no pun intended).

falconpunch99

03-19-2005, 01:49 PM

I'm an aggie :cool: . I'm currently a freshman at A&M Galveston working on getting my 3rd mate license w/ a marine science degree. :D
Gig em'

galaga

03-19-2005, 02:29 PM

How do you guys think Spurrier's cocks will do next year and beyond (no pun intended).

Are you kiddin' me :r
I think they'll hide the circumcision scars pretty well.
:r
I just can't wait to talk to some gators the first time they beat UF!