1st Opus = letdown . . . need some insight

I have been told by more than 1 retailer that Fuente sends the Opus whenever they choose. (shops can't order a certain amount, they get what is sent to them). I don't disagree that Fuente hypes this line, but as far as price goes Fuente also sets the MSRP. If Fuente wanted the tobacconists to charge double or triple MSRP, they would be charging the shops more for them. If Fuente sells a box of Petit Lanceros to a shop for $8 per stick and the shop chooses to sell them for $30 each, fuente doesn't make any more money than if they are sold for the $11.75 MSRP.
I have no problem with shops raising prices if demand warrants it, but nobody should be mad at Fuente.:2
 
hk3 said:
In my opinion, the opus need to rest for quite some time (a few years).

In all the opus I have ever smoked (not that many but a few) I have never had any burn issues, nor have I had a problem with them going out.

Maybe it's a strange batch?
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I have been wildly underwhelmed with Opus thus far, but have a couple in the humi aging for another try. One of the B&Ms here in Charlotte sells for about MSRP so I can pick some up, but I have stopped seeking them when I hear they are out.

For the $8-15 I would rather have a PAM64 or a Padilla Miami, but thats my opinion. Many people love them, which is why cigars are fun, everyone gets something different from them.

As far as fuente and prices go, I think as a retailer I would tell Fuente to pound sand as long as Casa Fuente is open. While I understand they don't own all of it, they certainly have a stake in it. Prices there aren't close to MSRP
 
Ive got a couple of these lined up for my birthday saturday night and I hope Im not disapointed but maybe ill just bring along a CAO Italia or a Olivia Series "V" and call it a party.

Siebec said:
I had the same problem with a Perfecxion No.5 awhile back. I bought it in November of 07 and smoked it in feb. I had to re-lite it about 5 times, but finally gave up on it. But the first No.5that I smoked on new years of '08 was perfect all the way to the nub, it even held its ash till the band. I have one more No.5 that I will probably try here soon so hopefully it goes more like the first one I had.
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I dry box everything now. Even keeping sticks at 65 I have found they just often smoke to wet for my preference. In the future when you try them again make sure to dry box it for 3 days prior to smoking
 
Thanks for the tips. I did drybox for about 8-10 hours based on previous posts I've read here. Next time, I'll try it for a few days.

Thanks again for all the replies!
 
I just had my first Opus X last night. I was dismayed when I pulled it out of the cello and the pointy tip at the cap (it was a belicoso size) was unraveling.

Here's what I noticed from mine:
  • Really loose draw, almost too loose.
  • Tons of rich, white smoke.
  • Massive nicotine headache afterwards.
  • Made me cough a lot.
  • By the end, I was just struggling to finish it so I'd feel like I got my money's worth.
It was good, but I don't know that I'd rush out to buy another one. I've had cigars that I enjoyed more that cost 1/3 of what this one cost.
 
Tenor CS said:
I just had my first Opus X last night. I was dismayed when I pulled it out of the cello and the pointy tip at the cap (it was a belicoso size) was unraveling.

Here's what I noticed from mine:
  • Really loose draw, almost too loose.
  • Tons of rich, white smoke.
  • Massive nicotine headache afterwards.
  • Made me cough a lot.
  • By the end, I was just struggling to finish it so I'd feel like I got my money's worth.
It was good, but I don't know that I'd rush out to buy another one. I've had cigars that I enjoyed more that cost 1/3 of what this one cost.
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I have been watching this thread and waiting to see if you chimed in.

:mad: Sorry it wasn't better, they say you never forget your first.

Chas
 
ChasDen said:
:mad: Sorry it wasn't better, they say you never forget your first.
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It really wasn't bad, I think it's more a product of, being a noob, I'm not really "ready" to smoke a cigar like the Opus X yet.

On the plus side, I had a lovely $4 Perdomo Lot 23 the other night. :)
 
RGD said:
Deep breath here - deep breath. :ss

Since we are taking exceptions here - I'd like to comment on your price points. I'm certainly glad to hear that someone is buying Opus at MSRP - because in reality most of the cigar buying population is not. I'd invite you to come to Northern Virginia and find one B&M selling at MSRP - heck let's just extend that to Maryland and DC also. For that matter find me an online retailer doing the same that actually has them in stock.
And just for fun - show of hands - how many can actually walk into their local B&M and find boxes of Opus on display? Hmmmmm - yeah, me neither.

And so while Opus may be a great $8 to $15 smoke - most of us just are not as fortunate as you are.

As for the OP - yeah it sucks but it does happen with any cigar. Did you smoke them outside? How humid was it? That can certainly have an effect on re-lighting.


Ron
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I can walk into my local B&M and find almost the entire line of Opus in stock for MSRP. I don't recall a time where I have been unable to get Opus when I wanted.

That being said, I think the line is a fine cigar, but it has a reputation it can't possibly live up to. Especially to people who can't get them regularly. They are so hard to come by for some that people build them up as being the holly grail of cigars, which it is not.

If you smoke one for what it is and realize that it won't be the greatest cigar ever, won't give you super human strength and won't cure cancer, you will find that it is damn fine smoke that is worth the price of admission.

Just figured I would chime in with my :2
 
I have smoked quite afew opus over the last few years, up to 4 years old, and I haven't really liked any of them.

Even if I could find them at MSRP there are quite a few cigars in the $8-$10 bracket that taste MUCH better, as soon as I buy them.

On that note, I would never buy a stick that REQUIRES 5+ years to begin with. I wanna enjoy my cigars now or in the short term, and while some sticks get better with age they don't get so much better i'll wait a tenth of my life for them.

I won't go so far as to say their dog rockets, since many here like them, but such burn issues in any other stick would never be tolerated by the community. I have occasionally had to follow-up my opus with a good backwoods, to clear the taste.

Love me a DCM though.
 
ahbroody said:
I dry box everything now. Even keeping sticks at 65 I have found they just often smoke to wet for my preference. In the future when you try them again make sure to dry box it for 3 days prior to smoking
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I read all posts from all the posts on the first three pages waiting for someone, to mention this. In my experience the opus always tend to draw in more moisture than other cigars (ESG not so much, so im thinking its the wrapper). Properly stored and then dry boxed, I havent had anything less than a razor sharp burn.
 
sqc049 said:
I can walk into my local B&M and find almost the entire line of Opus in stock for MSRP. I don't recall a time where I have been unable to get Opus when I wanted.

That being said, I think the line is a fine cigar, but it has a reputation it can't possibly live up to. Especially to people who can't get them regularly. They are so hard to come by for some that people build them up as being the holly grail of cigars, which it is not.

If you smoke one for what it is and realize that it won't be the greatest cigar ever, won't give you super human strength and won't cure cancer, you will find that it is damn fine smoke that is worth the price of admission.

Just figured I would chime in with my :2
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Where is your B&M so I can try some for MSRP? :hn
 
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I have smoked 2 of these both of which were smoked before I knew how hyped these are. I still have one cooking in my humi but would love to add more as having just one I feel as though I should save it.
 
I was given an opus perfection x that had aged for over a year for being in a wedding in december. I waited until may to smoke it and I liked it pretty well. It was deffinitey full and strong, but I enjoyed it. Had no burn problems or anything.
 
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