$69.95 for 50 Genuine Pre-Embargo Counterfeit Cuban 1958

Yeah, but hey, these ain't too bad fer cheap smokes. Why, I remember when these here Jen-yew-wine Counterfeit Cubans first came out, waaaaay back when. They wuz purty good. Usedta pick 'em up from the local BM. They wuz all right, they wuz. Yup. Purty good.
 
I started smoking stogies on those some years ago loved them,back then, they were the 1958 counterfeits then found padron dont really care for them anymore
 
Please let us know how genuine they taste. Thanks.:ss

WOW it's alive!

Laugh if you want, but, they do taste good and have only improved with age. At $1.40 a piece, they were a bargain and I have had far worse cigars at 4 times the price.

Don't get me wrong, these are not going to stand up to high dollar cigars, but, anyone who read the Moki blind taste thread should have learned that you can get some suprising results when the cigar band is missing.

If your interested, here is a review from Top25cigar http://www.top25cigar.com/reviewdatabase/product.asp?pkID=7978&showprod=yes&catpkID=583

This was my review the day after I got these cigars http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32787&highlight=Genuine+Pre-Embargo+Counterfeit+Cuban

Take care.
Ken
 
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Even though this thread has been brought back from the dead...

I'm the last person to care about name brands or smoking "the cigar," but there are so many relatively great cigars out there in the $2-3 range that I can't imagine I would smoke these things before trying other smokes with less ridiculous names. I question the quality of something that has a gimmicky name to attract customers. If the cigar's so delicious it should be a success without the tricks - with a more "average" name.

I don't think Lew and JR will go under anytime soon without my support, though :D

If you read through this thread, for the most part, it boils down to two camps.

A) Those who have smoked these and liked them.

B) Those who don't like the name on the band and haven't tried them.

I think the following quotes from NCRadioman and PadronMe say alot about this cigar.

:tpd: That is very true. But I have to say I have had a few of these and they are not bad at all. Sure the name is silly, but you don't smoke the name. With that said, I wouldn't buy a box. :D

:ms NCRM

Then they are not that good, either.

Yep, they are. I just don't buy NC boxes. ;)


:ms NCRM


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Please post in the New Gorilla forum and let us know a little about you. This really is a friendly place.

Take care and have a great day.
Ken
 
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Actually I think I'd like to correct how these posts fall out:

1. Those that smoked and liked
2. Those that smoked and didn't like (there are a few of these as well)
3. Those that smoked and said they are smokable
4. Those that won't smoke because of the name

To say something is "not bad" is not exactly an endorsement, niehter is saying "it's good for $1.40."

It either is a good cigar or it isn't, at least the way I see it. Gispert is $3 and I classify it as an all time great, at least for me. Omar Ortiz Original also about $3 and its a good cigar. I think the easiest way to tell if it is good is this: if you could smoke anything you want would you smoke these? I can mostly smoke anything I want, but I chose to smoke Gisperts quite often.
 
Actually I think I'd like to correct how these posts fall out:

1. Those that smoked and liked
2. Those that smoked and didn't like (there are a few of these as well)
3. Those that smoked and said they are smokable
4. Those that won't smoke because of the name

To say something is "not bad" is not exactly an endorsement, niehter is saying "it's good for $1.40."

It either is a good cigar or it isn't, at least the way I see it. Gispert is $3 and I classify it as an all time great, at least for me. Omar Ortiz Original also about $3 and its a good cigar. I think the easiest way to tell if it is good is this: if you could smoke anything you want would you smoke these? I can mostly smoke anything I want, but I chose to smoke Gisperts quite often.

:tpd: Well said
 
Actually I think I'd like to correct how these posts fall out:

1. Those that smoked and liked
2. Those that smoked and didn't like (there are a few of these as well)
3. Those that smoked and said they are smokable
4. Those that won't smoke because of the name

To say something is "not bad" is not exactly an endorsement, niehter is saying "it's good for $1.40."

It either is a good cigar or it isn't, at least the way I see it. Gispert is $3 and I classify it as an all time great, at least for me. Omar Ortiz Original also about $3 and its a good cigar. I think the easiest way to tell if it is good is this: if you could smoke anything you want would you smoke these? I can mostly smoke anything I want, but I chose to smoke Gisperts quite often.

You had 1 that thought they were terrible, but, "it wasn't the same brand". I guess this falls under #2?

Another one that falls under #2 sounds like he is talking about another cigar, which makes me wonder if he really smoked the same cigar that this thread is about.

I'm not sure which ones fall under #3

If they didn't smoke this cigar http://www.mikescigars.com/ProductD...072/name/GENUINE PRE-EMB GOURMET FIGURADO EMS

Then it is like saying, I don't like Buicks because I once had a Chevrolet that was terrible.
 
It either is a good cigar or it isn't, at least the way I see it. Gispert is $3 and I classify it as an all time great, at least for me. Omar Ortiz Original also about $3 and its a good cigar. I think the easiest way to tell if it is good is this: if you could smoke anything you want would you smoke these? I can mostly smoke anything I want, but I chose to smoke Gisperts quite often.

Agree with everything here, including what you've said about Gisperts.

for the record, I would, of course, smoke one of these if someone offered or suggested it in person. However, I just don't see myself going out my way to find or buy them. I had a $2 Punch Rothschild last night that was fantastic. If I happened to be shopping for cigars and saw GPECC for the first time I would probably just dismiss it as a crappy gimmick and pick up something I was more familiar with.

I'm absolutely not a snob because I'm not afraid to admit that Tropical Fever Torpedos (like $.40 on sale) are some of my favorite smokes!
 
If I happened to be shopping for cigars and saw GPECC for the first time I would probably just dismiss it as a crappy gimmick and pick up something I was more familiar with.

I'm absolutely not a snob..............

Contradiction there, maybe?

I have had a few more of these and they are "not bad" for a Perdomo product. ;) As for the Gisperts, I have had a few decent ones but to me, the air I breath has more flavor.
 
Let's start a brand and call it "Real Fakes"

...... we'll say they are made by a guy named Arturo Padron

..... featuring the unique sun grown shade wrappers

...... hand rolled by machines

We'll make million$ :al

:tpd::tpd: But why make millions when we can make...Billions!
 
Bah these suck, and for many reasons. Cigar wise, they are strickly average. I actually bought boxes of both varieties when they were launched (still have one of the original green banded robbies laying around somewhere). Perdomos reps at both these events were real PT Barnum wannabes, telling people they are called that because they taste just like a real cuban, which is bs. These are both sub par gimmick sticks, why anyone would go out of their way to buy these idioticly named dog rockets is beyond me. There are so many better cigars out there that aren't a moronic brainchild of Lew that are better and cost the same. Just peek into TxMatt's thread, or call him up on the phone drunk on a friday night.
 
Bah these suck, and for many reasons. Cigar wise, they are strickly average. I actually bought boxes of both varieties when they were launched (still have one of the original green banded robbies laying around somewhere). Perdomos reps at both these events were real PT Barnum wannabes, telling people they are called that because they taste just like a real cuban, which is bs. These are both sub par gimmick sticks, why anyone would go out of their way to buy these idioticly named dog rockets is beyond me. There are so many better cigars out there that aren't a moronic brainchild of Lew that are better and cost the same. Just peek into TxMatt's thread, or call him up on the phone drunk on a friday night.

In your opinion Joe, old bean. In which I do value but smoke what you like and like what you smoke. Everybody has a gimmick, bro and I could care less about the name or the band, for that matter. I will say again, I like them. I don't think they are sub-par when comparing to the rest of the Perdomo line.

I thought all reps tell folks thier cigars taste like or are better than cuban cigars. :r
 
Bah these suck, and for many reasons. Cigar wise, they are strickly average.

Why would anyone think otherwise? :confused: For what they are, they are OK.

I actually bought boxes of both varieties when they were launched (still have one of the original green banded robbies laying around somewhere). Perdomos reps at both these events were real PT Barnum wannabes, telling people they are called that because they taste just like a real cuban, which is bs.

Well, next time, don't listen to the SALESMAN. :ss Buy a few singles first and give 'em a go. I presume you were a rookie back then and didn't understand this basic concept. :rolleyes:

These are both sub par gimmick sticks, why anyone would go out of their way to buy these idioticly named dog rockets is beyond me. There are so many better cigars out there that aren't a moronic brainchild of Lew that are better and cost the same. Just peek into TxMatt's thread, or call him up on the phone drunk on a friday night.

So, tell us how you really feel. :r

I wouldn't call 'em sub-par, just an OK stick, you know, AVERAGE (see above). And I wouldn't recommend going out of the way for them, either. But, I do pick up a couple when I come across them. And you're right, TxMatt's thread is a very good reference for good cheapies.
 
Why would anyone think otherwise? :confused: For what they are, they are OK.



Well, next time, don't listen to the SALESMAN. :ss Buy a few singles first and give 'em a go. I presume you were a rookie back then and didn't understand this basic concept. :rolleyes:

They were cheap at the time, and if you bought a box you got 15 free handrolleds from the guy who was rolling on site (which were better btw) so I bit. Had a what the hell moment. I almost always try before I buy thank you very much :fu

A better question is why would you waste time smoking a cigar that is just ok? There are plenty of other smokes that cost the same that are better.
 
They were cheap at the time, and if you bought a box you got 15 free handrolleds from the guy who was rolling on site (which were better btw) so I bit. Had a what the hell moment. I almost always try before I buy thank you very much :fu

A better question is why would you waste time smoking a cigar that is just ok? There are plenty of other smokes that cost the same that are better.

I have a question. Did you buy the "GOURMET FIGURADO" or one of the other cigars? I haven't had any of the other sizes, so I really can't say what they are like.

As far as wasting time goes.

When I have time to relax and enjoy a cigar, and really think about it's flavors without being interupted, this is not the cigar I grab.

These are a good full bodied cigar that I take fishing, smoke while working in the yard or when I am rushed for time. If something happens while I am smoking, I'm not out a $10 or $20 cigar, I am out $1.40 and I'm perfectly happy to light up another one after I get my fish in the boat.

I would really be bummed out if I spit an Opus into the water:D

For 1 dollar and forty cents, I still feel that the "GOURMET FIGURADO" was a bargain, as far as the other sizes go, I can't say and won't judge what I haven't smoked.

I really would like to try some of the better cigars that sell for $1.40. I'm always looking for a good full bodied, low priced cigar so if you would give me the names, I will try to get them at the B&M when I go to the Herf tonight.

Thanks
Ken
 
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