Aristocrat Mini, Set & Forget, and Heartfelt Beads

Agar066

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Longtime lurker here, 1st-time poster, I love the CS forums, especially the porn! I'll have to post some of my own.

I ordered an Aristocrat Mini from Bob Staebell (a great guy!) and it arrived about two weeks ago. I opted for the Set & Forget system, and for about the last week it's been running and seasoning the interior. While initially going with the default setting of 65% rh, I've since raised it to 68%, because I've found that when the unit reads 65% and shuts down the fan on the humidifier, the rh quickly drops to 64%, and the unit doesn't come back on until the monitor reads 63%.

I also went to 68% because when the heat is off in my apartment, the rh drops at the top and the bottom of the cabinet, according to the two calibrated hygros I placed there.

When I turn the heat on, the rh tends to spike on the bottom of the cabinet, sometimes by as much as 5-6%. (I set the temperature on my central heating thermostat to just under 70 degrees.)

In my 52qt coolidor, I use a half-pound of 65% Heartfelt beads and the rh stays pegged at a constant rh (usually a bit more than 65%, possibly due to adding a little too much water). Since I've read more than a few posts here that many of you guys use beads with the Set & Forget system, I've decided to do so as well.

Before I put in my order with Viper, though, I wanted to ask anybody who has the Mini and uses beads along with the Set & Forget a couple of things, namely 1) how much? (1/2 pound, a pound?), 2) in tubes or mesh bags (most of the pics I see seem to be the mesh bags), and 3) Should I split the quantity evenly, i.e., one bag on top, one in the middle, and one on the bottom?

Any other tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.

Adam "Agar066"
 
Welcome aboard. I have the same set up of the Mini and Set and Forget. It is rock solid, so I have not used the beads, but I did have that conversation with Bob before it arrived at my house. Have you discussed with him what you explained to us? He has been more that willing to answer honestly when I have called. Another question is, how is behaving once you load it with your inventory? That may make a difference.
 
Welcome, Adam, to CS. Certainly sounds like you're already sliding down the slope as they say. I don't have an Aristocrat so I can't help you there...but I know others will chime in. Cheers!
 
Welcome.

I have the Set & Forget system as well. I have the same problem but its minor. My system is set at 65/65 . The top of the humidor is at 65%. But due to the heat on in my finished basement the lowe half of the humidor and thats were the reservoir is, seems to rise to 68 -69%. Its no big deal. I have spoken to Bob about this and like he said its due to the heat.

If you want to see if you Set & Forget is running correctly. Here is a test that Bob gave me. It is so simple as well.

Open the humi and breathe on the Temp Gauge of the Set & Forget while it is running. If the system shuts off you are good to go and perfect.
 
All good advice here, I dont hav anything to add other than Welcome to Club Stogie :) and yes let us see some porn when you get your stash in there. :D
 
Thanks a lot for the replies so far, and for the warm welcome. I'll be sure to post in the New Gorilla Forum.

I haven't asked Bob these questions yet, I guess mainly because I asked him so many when I was making my order! I'll have to try that test that RPB67 mentioned.

I also have not yet loaded up the Mini. I have two more boxes coming this week (I managed to track down a box of Camacho Face Off by Litto Gomez, and I also got a great deal on a box of Punch Rare Corojo Rothschilds) so I'll probably load it up then.

I guess I just like the idea of augmenting the Set & Forget system with beads to help stabilize the rh and am looking for info on the experiences of anyone else out there who's tried it.
 
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Your problems may be solved after loading the humidor. Having sticks and boxes in a humidor will generally stabilize RH because they absorb this humidity and you aren't losing it to dead space.

That's not a scientific answer---but it's just what I have found true, the more sticks you have the more solid your RH. SO BUY MORE CIGARS! :D
 
Don't have the mini, but I do have beads in my Aristocrat (plus 48). I can't say if they help or not since I put them in from the very start as an extra precaution and because I had them from other humidors/coolers from before the Aristocrat arrived. I probably have about 3lbs spread around the cabinet. If space were a premium and it came down to beads or cigars, I wouldn't hesitate to remove the beads.
 
Don't have the mini, but I do have beads in my Aristocrat (plus 48). I can't say if they help or not since I put them in from the very start as an extra precaution and because I had them from other humidors/coolers from before the Aristocrat arrived. I probably have about 3lbs spread around the cabinet. If space were a premium and it came down to beads or cigars, I wouldn't hesitate to remove the beads.


Just curious you realy think you need that much beads with the Set & Forget system. Mine keeps the M+ perfect. I would think it would work good enough so you wouldn't have to use beads.
 
Just curious you realy think you need that much beads with the Set & Forget system. Mine keeps the M+ perfect. I would think it would work good enough so you wouldn't have to use beads.
I doubt I need them - I had them before the Aristocrat and figured I'd put them in there...can't hurt. Just checked the cab and it is 65 temp/ 63 humidity on the set and forget and 65/65 on the hygro on the bottom shelf. My office in the basement is pretty constant 65 degrees year round. Not at the point yet where I need to worry about space.
 
I doubt I need them - I had them before the Aristocrat and figured I'd put them in there...can't hurt. Just checked the cab and it is 65 temp/ 63 humidity on the set and forget and 65/65 on the hygro on the bottom shelf. My office in the basement is pretty constant 65 degrees year round. Not at the point yet where I need to worry about space.

My humidor is in the finished basemet as well. It makes a big difference. The Set & Forget doesnt work as hard at all. Its a great system.
 
My humidor is in the finished basemet as well. It makes a big difference. The Set & Forget doesnt work as hard at all. Its a great system.


Mine barely does anything unless I crack open the door and leave that way for too long as a result of indecision. :rolleyes:
 
Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll load it up on Wednesday when the 2 boxes I ordered arrive, then I'll see if the rh stabilizes somewhat.

I'll post pics after that.
 
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