I guess I had a productive lunch hour. Made it over to a cigar store I've been meaning to visit. The fella said they were in the process of trying to sell the store and inventory. After turning down several suggestions he pulled out an Ashton VSG sampler with 5 gorda sized sticks. The sticker was $59 and he gave me a deal at $30. I don't know beans about these sticks but figure what the hey.