Be honest with yourself

Shall we get out of Iraq?

  • Yes: We achieved our goal and it’s time to leave

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes: We failed to achieve our goal and it’s time to leave

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • No: We need to stay till Iraqi’s take responsibility

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • No: We need to stay till we achieve all of our goals in the region

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6
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warpeace2006

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IHT - this is left to show you all what is NOT a product review. if you feel you want to post a review of this "product", let me know.

I registered with a new nick-name for not influencing your choice, and to be free in your decision
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After three years in Iraq.
After thousands of dead and injured soldiers; and still counting.
After billions of dollars spent, not on rebuilding Iraq, but on the war itself; and still counting.



One would pause for a minute and ask oneself with complete honesty;
Shall we get out of Iraq?



Consider this as a poll and vote with sincerity;Shall we get out of Iraq?
 
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:tpd:

And those aren't leading statements at all if you're looking for unbiased responses, huh? Is this a 60 minutes poll?
 
Be honest with us.....

Did you join this forum for the express purpose of posting this poll?

If so, please don't waste our time, we waste it quite well without assistance. :)

If not, what do you like to smoke?
 
warpeace2006 said:
I registered with a new nick-name for not influencing your choice, and to be free in your decision
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After three years in Iraq.
After thousands of dead and injured soldiers; and still counting.
After billions of dollars spent, not on rebuilding Iraq, but on the war itself; and still counting.



One would pause for a minute and ask oneself with complete honesty;
Shall we get out of Iraq?



Consider this as a poll and vote with sincerity;Shall we get out of Iraq?

Wait, is that an edit? I didn't see the line saying they has registered with a new name. Still don't like it and it's still in the completely wrong forum
 
How about a new poll for us about this guy:

1. You are a dumbass who cannot read the rules
2. You have no idea what you are talking about
3. Your political viewpoints were not asked for nor wanted here
4. You have no idea how and why you have the rights and luxuries you enjoy today.
5. All of the above.

Vote Early Vote Often

:hn

EDIT: What kind of idiotic reasoning is "We failed to achieve our goal and it is time to leave". I don't care what you are talking about you do not give up before you have accomplished your goal, especially if the reason is that it has become much harder than you anticipated. In this case it will send a message to all other countries that we will go in and leave if it gets rough. Think if that had been the strategy and national opinion in WWII.
 
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NCRadioMan said:
This has to be the worst cigar product review, ever! :D

:ms NCRM

:r no :BS

Anyway, to answer the question - I don't know, but I do think we (USA) didn't do it right and now it's all f'd up. I will leave it at that becuase what I really have to say would probably piss off most of the people on this board and I'm sure I would be breaking some rules (I'm not a lefty btw). :c
 
warpeace2006 said:
I registered with a new nick-name for not influencing your choice, and to be free in your decision IHT - must've been banned for a good reason, judging by your first post. how about we try it again?
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After three years in Iraq. IHT - and how many years does a war take?
After thousands of dead and injured soldiers; and still counting. IHT - duh, it's a war.
After billions of dollars spent, not on rebuilding Iraq, but on the war itself; and still counting. IHT - um, you need to get your facts straight. we are spending all kinds of money REBUILDING Iraq. i know of just one single brigade that built 6 police stations in a year, when there were zero when they got there. they also rebuilt/refurbished the school and hospital after they got rid of the insurgents. and thats just in 1 small town, now imagine that ALL OVER THE COUNTRY! that is what is being done, yet you won't hear about it because you don't get your information directly from the people doing it (the military) like i do - you get your information from the press that has an agenda and will distort and bend the truth to fulfill that agenda.

One would pause for a minute and ask oneself with complete honesty;
Shall we get out of Iraq? IHT - no. not until the Iraqi's have taken responsibility for their own security, their own government, their own economy. it's a tough nut to crack when their economy is built on oil and the local nationals don't even want locally manufactured goods! the Iraqi army doesn't want uniforms that are MADE IN IRAQ!! they want their uniforms that were made in Pakistan. they don't want the bricks from the Iraqi brick manufacturing plant in their own damn cities, they want them imported!!
you need to get more information before you spew some BS on here, bro.

the Iraqi Police and Iraqi Army ARE standing up and taking over. the Coalition forces are stepping back and letting them be the face of the rebuilding, after extensive training.

but it is hard damn work that the media doesn't want to hear about. they don't want to hear about the years and years of infighting that has gone on LONG before the Coalition forces even stepped foot in Iraq. they don't want to hear about the shia police chief who had to be removed because his police forces (that where there before the war) were terrorizing sunni's in the town, although they were outnumbered 3 to 1. that is, until the Coalition forces showed up and stabilized the area.

the Insurgents are NOT attacking the Coalition forces (except in IEDs) because they get their asses handed to them on a platter. instead, they attack the Iraqi Police and Iraqi Army forces to try and promote fear, but IT IS NOT WORKING ANYMORE.

obviously i could go on for days.

i really wish the US citizens could sit in on all the military briefings i get to see - it would surely change their vewpoint on this situation and prove that we are doing good, the situation is getting a lot better (has been for a while now). the information is out there, but it is so damn hard to find because nobody wants to report all the good work being done, that doesn't sell newspapers. only the SENSATIONAL stories of a suicide bomber blowing up a Mosque that kills 40 of his countrymen makes the news.

example of how much things have turned around in under a year.
the town of Tel Afar. when a brigade of 3rd ACR rolled into town, there were no other forces around, other than insurgents. they averaged 7 attacks a day (IEDs, small arms fire, etc)!!! in under a year, when they left and turned their area of operations over to the next unit, they would go for days without being attacked ONCE, and sometimes up to a week without an attack. and who are they attacking at that time? THEMSELVES due to sectarian infighting. in some towns the tribes are mixed with shia and sunni, but in some areas it is ONLY shia and ONLY sunni, so they lob mortars at each other... and sometimes even on the damn soccer fields and playgrounds that the Coalition forces built!! how's that for being humanitarian??
but you won't hear that on the news or the radio or read it in a newspaper. nope, because that's a good thing. non-violence doesn't sell like voilence.

you go ahead and be brainwashed by whoever it is that's doing it - give 'em a pat on the back from me, they're doing a damn good job of it.
then give 'em :sl for being a dumbass that doesn't know the facts.


Consider this as a poll and vote with sincerity;Shall we get out of Iraq?
reply in the quote.

btw - :bn



ps - those of you that are voting "we failed to achieve our goals" obviously don't know what our goals were, because they are BEING achieved, if you haven't looked at the news lately... well, then again, that's probably WHY you don't know...
JUST SO YOU DO KNOW, CABINET SELECTIONS START ON SATURDAY!
 
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LSUTIGER said:
:r no :BS

Anyway, to answer the question - I don't know, but I do think we (USA) didn't do it right and now it's all f'd up. I will leave it at that becuase what I really have to say would probably piss off most of the people on this board and I'm sure I would be breaking some rules (I'm not a lefty btw). :c
i think you need to sit in on some briefings that tell the facts about what's going on, not what gets filtered via both sides of the media.
it may not change your mind, but i know for a fact you would walk out of there with boatloads more respect for the troops, what they're dealing with, how great of a job they are doing, and that it isn't nearly as bad as the media makes it out to be (the situation). sure, losing soldiers sucks, never said it wasn't bad...
how many died on D-day alone? how many died in Korea (people forget about that war, but we lost the most men in that one, yet it's the least talked about - unless you're in the military)? we lost more in the 9-11 attacks on the WTC, Pentagon, and flight 93, than we have in Iraq.

i'll be quiet, just that i sit through briefings all day long about what is going on and then i have to read this :BS (not your post, LSU_Tiger, the newly banned member) or watch the news on the Communist News Network (CNN).
 
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