CAO cubist ashtray is awesome BUT...

Got my first quote...
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Had to change the design a bit just due to the change in materials. The design would be $505 for the first one. This is just my first quote of many. I think that it is important that I get a nice finish on it. It's not going inside of an engine, its going on my coffee table.

FYI If I buy 25 the price is about $275 ea. I'm trying to figure out the best type of aluminum. I am not sure if it will need some sort of finishing. It most likely will.

Edit adding...

Oops my bad. Those prices are without the brushed finishing. Since it is too large for most brushing machines, It may need to be hand grinded. That costs almost $100 per with very little price break for qty. Not sure I trust hand grinding either.

I'm curious to see what may happen with a raw finish. You may see some cut marks, but that may be cool. Not quite sure.

And I'm sure it will need big rubber bumper feet so it doesn't scratch the surface.
 
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Pretty sweet idea. It's cool that there is so much expertise that people could make this happen pretty fast barring cost.

To change it a little and avoid copyright issues. You could always add a side and make it the Club Stogie "pentist" ashtray. Makes it more herf friendly anyway. :ss

Could you use a different metal that costs less like tin? I know it wouldn't be as cool but if it gets them made.

You could also always do it the way CAO did and create ceramic ones by making a mold. Then slip cast them glaze to taste and fire away.

I'll be following this thread and see what comes of it for sure.
 
That's pretty cool, but I would be curious about propert infringement.

the tray made by -MG- out of wood was sweet, too. Very talented.
 
Actually, you better make sure the design is not protected in some form by CAO, because designs can be. As mentioned before, it is not necessarily a patent, but that design may, and most likely is, trademarked or copyrighted.

If you added one more "block" to make it 5 or even 6 and therefore more round in shape you might have something more unique that might avoid issues.

I love the shape of the ashtray...just wish they had made the surfaces less deep and therefore making the ash receptacle itself bigger.
 
This is Awesome. We have Legal Counsel.
Thankyou.

So if a few of us are in. Lets run with this.
A CS Original. Unless we can not asume with the CS.
Anyway,
I'll kick out a round one and see how that looks.
Actually I can desgn anything. Then we need to design it to be able to manufacture it. Then to mfg. it cost effective.
I'll create any 3D Solidmodel you want.

I myself will NOT pay 5 bills for an ashtray.
 
GrtndpwrflOZ said:
This is Awesome. We have Legal Counsel.
Thankyou.

So if a few of us are in. Lets run with this.
A CS Original. Unless we can not asume with the CS.
Anyway,
I'll kick out a round one and see how that looks.
Actually I can desgn anything. Then we need to design it to be able to manufacture it. Then to mfg. it cost effective.
I'll create any 3D Solidmodel you want.

I myself will NOT pay 5 bills for an ashtray.
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Outstanding!

Good luck to you.
 
ResIpsa said:
While it's easy to disagree about IP law , the issue is not trademarks, rather whether or not that particular design is protected under copyright, a distinct area of IP law. Copyrights do not need to be registered to be protected, although it IS a good idea to do so.

An item can have both form and function, be protected as to one and not the other under existing copyright law.

An ashtray referred to as "cubist" is being referred to as a particular art form,by the maker, art is certainly protected under copyright law, and I'll just say that IMHO that design is protected under copyright law, and we can agree to disagree.:tu
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My opinion was a lot more casual observer conjecture than what sounds like direct knowledge that you have, so I'll roll with you on this one :)

Which reminds me, I need to create a "this is just my opinion, take with large grain of salt" signature......
 
-MG- said:
I'm willing to help if I can.. I've got a small-scale CNC machine and made this one as well as another that I can't show until Saturday (it was made as a gift, and I'm not sure if the recipient is a memeber of the board).

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I can do aluminum as well...
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I like that wood one! I am more interested in this design.
 
That round one looks awsome. If you don't want to spend the extra $$ on the brushed finished, just get it right of the mill and sand it with a 1000, or 1200 grit sandpaper. Then you can polish it with a die grinder and it will have a mirror finish. Just an idea.
 
I also like the round ashtray. If the price is right, I might just buy it if $$$ permits of course. :tu
 
Would injection moulded acrylic in grey/silver be an option.The brewerys always used to use em as promo/advertising in pubs? The range of designs n details you could do would be huge.Just my :2 to keep costs down. Good luck :tu
 
I just sent a print of a 9" round tray to my machinist for a quote. I'm curious to see what he comes back with.
I am thinking it is going to be crazy high $$$.

Aluminum......


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