Does your wife or love one give you stuff like this to read?

Hell, for one, marijuana even has it's own magazine. Second, percentages in articles like this mean jack-shit without numbers. Lung cancer being a 2-4% increase over non-smokers (which is relatively uncommon), that means it's just 2-4% more common, ie still relatively uncommon in the grand scheme of things! Even cigarette smokers it's not that much more, it's just in the media more. People like this b*tch need to get a clue and stop using semi-persuassive arguments with fake numbers that only appeal to the anti-smoking groupies.
 
I did a lot of research when I first started really smoking cigars. I read journals of medicine, medical research, 3rd party studies, pro-smoking studies, anti-smoking studies.

The risk factors making someone eligible for 9 out of 10 studies required that the smoker smoke 5 or more cigars daily. Note in the aforementioned article:

Research shows that three-quarters of cigar smokers smoke occasionally and that 76 percent of them smoke fewer than five cigars a day. Occasional cigar smoking (once or twice a month) is considered to be of minimal health risk unless you have special or hereditary factors that would place you at higher risk for tobacco-related illnesses or tobacco addiction.
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Less than 5 cigars a day means you smoke a negligible amount and can't be considered for most of the research out there.
 
Yep. seen it before.

Here's one for the world to ponder.......

Waking up, increases your chances of dying.........
 
I think everyone is missing the main point of this.......PREMIUM CIGAR USAGE IS UP %250!!! Keep up the good work.
 
Following you posting this I just read about 248 pages on cigar smoking on the National Cancer institues web site. The article is techincally correct however the fact presented are some of the extremes. Such as deeply inhaling and smoking 5-20 cigars a day. There is also a difference in risk whether you smoke a regular cigar or preium (hand rolled) hand rolled is much less. However if you smoke 5+ per day your risk of oral cancer is the same as if you smoke a pack a day. All in all I think in moderation and quality the risks are fare less than other things that you encounter in you daily life such as driving or going to the doctor. 500K per year die as a result of seeing their doc. The secret #1 killer in the US.

Anyone want to read what I did can at this site: http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/9/m9_complete.PDF
 
Give her something like this to read

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dwhitacre said:
Thanks for this list:
• formaldehyde
• ammonia
• urethane
• naphthalene
• carbon monoxide
• hydrogen cyanide
• arsenic
• nicotine
• benzene
• vinyl chloride
• ethylene oxide
• other volatile aldehydes
• cadmium
• radioactive polonium 210

Now I have more descriptors for my cigar reviews!!!

Example: I tasted hints of benzene with a strong radioactive polonium 210 finish!!! :r
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I love it here.:D
 
Polonium? I'd liek to see sources for this article...


"Seventy percent of regular smokers wish they could stop and wish that they had never started in the first place."

I'd ask for a show of hands, but that'd be a bit biased, since this is a cigar-forum...

Although I don't think I've ever talked to a cigar smoker who's said "oh man, I really wished I'd never picked this up". Cigarette smokers yes, Cigar smokers... I can't think of one.
 
Cruiscin90 said:
Polonium? I'd liek to see sources for this article...


"Seventy percent of regular smokers wish they could stop and wish that they had never started in the first place."

I'd ask for a show of hands, but that'd be a bit biased, since this is a cigar-forum...

Although I don't think I've ever talked to a cigar smoker who's said "oh man, I really wished I'd never picked this up". Cigarette smokers yes, Cigar smokers... I can't think of one.
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You beat me to this one.... that is the first thing that made me say, "okay, how many other :BS made up factoids or out of context talking points do they use here?"
Actually, I kind of glazed over at the first "factiods" knowing where the article was heading in the first place. ;)
 
Longevity is an historical trait for males in my family. I truly wish that I live to 100 years, because when asked to what I attribute my advanced age; I can blow a smoke ring from my stogie and quote that great line from the movie Sleeper: "This is tobacco. It's good for you!"
 
I love it... at first mom didn't approve of my cigar smoking, but then she accepted it. The people that write these articles want to outlaw tobacco. Many of these people in the anti-tobacco movement make their living off the garbage they put out there.

When ever someone says something to me about the dangers of cigar smoking, I just say, "yeah, your probably right..." and just go on puffing.
 
Cruiscin90 said:
Polonium? I'd liek to see sources for this article...
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Well, it might be true, but does it matter? There are trace amounts of all sorts of scary sounding chemicals in our food, our air, and our water, but most of these pose little or no danger. Here's a good commentary from an anti-tobacco researcher who's fed up with the pseudo-science that some of his colleagues have been spewing:

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2006/12/anti-smoking-advocate-claims-that.html

Some of the alleged scientists have even claimed that there's Plutonium 210 in secondhand smoke:

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2008/04/st-louis-university-prevention-center.html

Here's a good take on it all:

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2006/08/my-idea-for-new-truth-campaign.html
 
On this whole "nicotine is addictive" thing...for several reasons, but one of them being to test this claim, I gave up cigars for Lent. I cheated exactly twice--one was a "planned cheat" because of a scheduled herf on the calendar already, and once when it was announced that Castro was stepping down and I felt there just wasn't any more appropriate way to celebrate.

Except for the fact that I began to notice the smell of smoke more (generally while walking someplace and passing a smoker), during that time I didn't feel any real urge to light one up. I maintained my humidor just like I normally would, and I wasn't tempted.

I think a lot of this "addiction" talk is more psychological and cognitive than chemical or physical.
 
Sorry, I don't read stuff like that. As soon as I see where I think it's headed, I stop myself. I think articles like that may do as much, if not more damage by putting "bad thoughts" in our heads. If I believe anything it's "what the mind harbors the body manifests".

I'll do what I want and not let them fill my head with dirt...
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I find these "reefer madness" type articles about cigars kind of funny espcially when you considering the following quotes from the U.S. government

"The number of past year marijuana users in 2006 was approximately 25.4 million (10.3% of the population aged 12 or older)"

"a 2006 report by the Department of Health and Human Services estimated the number of cigar smokers at 13.7 million"

Now this includes all cigars the majority of which are machine made many of which are probably sold to the first group.

I couldn't find the % of cigar smokers that are premium hand rolled cigar smokers but I found this quote on a industry reference site.

"The United States had about 1 million premium cigar smokers."

So clearly their priorities are in the right place.
 
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