Humidifier Opinions Please

Hal, the best thing for you to do is send that thing to me. :)
If I were doing it up, I'd do it just like the big boys. Use a combo of active and passive humidification.
A load of beads and a couple hydras would be my choice.
I'd sit it so you can see front and back and build a two sided display stand for singles, kinda like in my display humi's, but way bigger. A half circle that rises concentrically would be so cool it makes me shudder. All covered with green felt and a zillion cigars. :D
You could hide tons of beads and the hydra under the display stand.
Down below you could keep boxes, beads and another hydra.
The reason you use two types of humidification is because the beads hold a "sink" of water that's constantly available.
The hydras don't have to humidify the unit. All they have to do is maintain the beads.
Hydras by themselves, or an avallo, or anything that just pumps water gives that "wet" feeling.
The combination of the two gives a more stable, natural feel.
I think it's a better environment, and I know that there's lots of guys here who use that approach with displays cases and such.
 
shilala said:
Hal, the best thing for you to do is send that thing to me. :)
If I were doing it up, I'd do it just like the big boys. Use a combo of active and passive humidification.
A load of beads and a couple hydras would be my choice.
I'd sit it so you can see front and back and build a two sided display stand for singles, kinda like in my display humi's, but way bigger. A half circle that rises concentrically would be so cool it makes me shudder. All covered with green felt and a zillion cigars. :D
You could hide tons of beads and the hydra under the display stand.
Down below you could keep boxes, beads and another hydra.
The reason you use two types of humidification is because the beads hold a "sink" of water that's constantly available.
The hydras don't have to humidify the unit. All they have to do is maintain the beads.
Hydras by themselves, or an avallo, or anything that just pumps water gives that "wet" feeling.
The combination of the two gives a more stable, natural feel.
I think it's a better environment, and I know that there's lots of guys here who use that approach with displays cases and such.
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I think that may be the route I take for humidifying this mutha. As for the top piece display..... I have seriously been considering a display like yours but more like a cylinder shape or a triangle. I can hook it to the motor in the bottom and it will rotate very slowly to display all the sticks. :D
I like the way yours looks so that would suite me well.

I dont think this thing can make it to your house Shilala.... It just traveled 700+ miles over the weekend to rest in my soon to be smoke room down in my basement. :ss

How many lbs. of beads you reckon it will take to keep this thing stable?
 
hk3 said:
I think that may be the route I take for humidifying this mutha. As for the top piece display..... I have seriously been considering a display like yours but more like a cylinder shape or a triangle. I can hook it to the motor in the bottom and it will rotate very slowly to display all the sticks. :D
I like the way yours looks so that would suite me well.

I dont think this thing can make it to your house Shilala.... It just traveled 700+ miles over the weekend to rest in my soon to be smoke room down in my basement. :ss

How many lbs. of beads you reckon it will take to keep this thing stable?
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You said 18 cu feet in your for sale thread.
If that's the whole thing, top and bottom, that'd take about 4 pounds.
I'd suggest 8. I use twice as many as I need in all my stuff. That way I never have to do anything.
It's been four months and I've never added a drop of water to any of my hydras in any of my humis.
If you're going to use the rotating feature, you won't get a hydra up top unless you're willing to leave it out in the open.
I'm really feeling a totally round staircase spinning stand.
You just won't get as many sticks on it.
How high is that top section? I can crunch some numbers and see what you can get in there. :)
Dimensions on the whole thing wouldn't hurt, cause it looks a whole lot bigger than 18 cubic feet. Or maybe that's just the pictures that make it look so big?
 
shilala said:
You said 18 cu feet in your for sale thread.
If that's the whole thing, top and bottom, that'd take about 4 pounds.
I'd suggest 8. I use twice as many as I need in all my stuff. That way I never have to do anything.
It's been four months and I've never added a drop of water to any of my hydras in any of my humis.
If you're going to use the rotating feature, you won't get a hydra up top unless you're willing to leave it out in the open.
I'm really feeling a totally round staircase spinning stand.
You just won't get as many sticks on it.
How high is that top section? I can crunch some numbers and see what you can get in there. :)
Dimensions on the whole thing wouldn't hurt, cause it looks a whole lot bigger than 18 cubic feet. Or maybe that's just the pictures that make it look so big?
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Well, it's 6 ft tall, and each side is 30 inches wide. How many beads is that gonna take you think?
 
I figured out it's 24 inches square inside from the 4x4 boxes in it.
It must be a little under five feet high, so yeah, 18 cubic feet must be right on (I came up with 20).
So my bead numbers are right in the ballpark. :tu

Spoke too soon. You posted while I was typing.
Gimme a minute...
 
72"x30"x30" is 64,800 cubic inches.
Divide that by 1728 and you have 37.5 cubic feet.
That's a far cry from 18 cubic feet. :D

Try to prune it down by getting some decent interior dimensions.
The walls look real thin, but the closer you can get to the real interior volume, the better we can guage what it'll take. :tu
Go grab your ruler. :)

I was just thinking, too.
If the rotating stand is sealed, you won't have to condition it's interior space and that will bring the volume down dramatically.
I can calculate that out, but you gotta know what you're gonna do first.
I'm going to calculate the volume of the rotating display I have in my head.
Be right back. :)
 
shilala said:
I figured out it's 24 inches square inside from the 4x4 boxes in it.
It must be a little under five feet high, so yeah, 18 cubic feet must be right on (I came up with 20).
So my bead numbers are right in the ballpark. :tu

Spoke too soon. You posted while I was typing.
Gimme a minute...
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shilala said:
72"x30"x30" is 64,800 cubic inches.
Divide that by 1728 and you have 37.5 cubic feet.
That's a far cry from 18 cubic feet. :D

Try to prune it down by getting some decent interior dimensions.
The walls look real thin, but the closer you can get to the real interior volume, the better we can guage what it'll take. :tu
Go grab your ruler. :)
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Ok, I will be back in 5 minutes with your measurements.
 
Ok the bottom is 27Lx26Wx32H and the top half is 27Lx26Wx29H I think we lose a little bit on the top and bottom for the stand and the part in the top for the lights.
 
hk3 said:
Ok the bottom is 27Lx26Wx32H and the top half is 27Lx26Wx29H I think we lose a little bit on the top and bottom for the stand and the part in the top for the lights.
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I calculated a cylindrical stand, but it was 24" in diameter x 30" high.
It took up 7 or 8 cubic feet.
Point being, if you were to build a stand that was round and stepped, and sealed it up, you could save a good amount of space that you won't have to condition.
With the new dimensions I recalculated and you can still save 4 or 5 cubic feet.
That brings us back to about 20 cubic feet to condition.
My answer:
Nine pounds.
I think nine pounds would do the job if you build the stand right.
If you build it wide open, add another couple pounds.
 
Thanks Shilala for your help figuring that out. I will assume that I need the 9+ lbs just incase I dont get around to building that tower for a bit.
 
Where do you purchase those beads? And is there a thread with a good review...maybe the chemistry and composition?

Thanks:ss
 
ArnaudDMR said:
Where do you purchase those beads? And is there a thread with a good review...maybe the chemistry and composition?

Thanks:ss
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They're very complex chemically. :r
They're made out of clay. The process by which they are made results in a bead full of tunnels exactly 4 angstroms wide with a wall thickness one molecule thick.
That's where I got the name HCM beads, or Humidity Control Molecular beads.
There are no chemicals added. The beads work on the principal of equilibrium, and they work very well. Easily twice as well as any other bead product out there. Plus they hold far more water in resevoir.
There's a number of reviews right here in this forum, and my test results and so forth are in a thread here. I'd find them for you, but I have to go back to bed. :)
 
I have a Towerador that had both the COxl and the Hydra with 2lbs of 65% RH beads. Both the CO and the Hydra are unplugged at the moment since the humidity in my lower level family room is sustaining my Towerador @ 67-69%RH. A bit on the high side for smoking but great for aging. I do have the reservoirs filled but the fans I now have running 15 mins every hour instead of hour and a half. So the beads are doing most of the regulating. My smokes have been perfect. I usually pull a couple out a few days early and store them in a dry box for better smokability. The Humidoe you snagged looks nice. Careful of the lighting increasing the temp. Dont want your sticks too warm.

Pics and story of my setup:

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=141053
 
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