I nubbed a nub today!

I've gotta try one of these things. They may be around for awhile, but the name is too easy a target for the butt of too many jokes here and elsewhere. I've smoked plenty of Nubs yet I've never smoked the Nub label cigar.:hn
 
I have now officially changed my mind on the Nub. I now know I was stupid to try one and like it, but the "non-cigar snob" FOG's that have decided for us all by turning every Nub thread into a bashing thread. Because of this and the fact that I am a "mind-numbed" robot I now only like Cuban's, Pipin's, Fuente's and Padron's.




I apolgize in advance for any I may offend and my Nub's should be in on Monday or Tuesday along with the check Sam the douchebag is sending me to support and stand behind "The NUB."
Nothing to see here, just a little venting!:fu
 
Cigarmark said:
I apolgize in advance for any I may offend and my Nub's should be in on Monday or Tuesday along with the check Sam the douchebag is sending me to support and stand behind "The NUB."
Nothing to see here, just a little venting!:fu
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I don't get it??????:confused:
 
Poriggity said:
Man, the negativity around here surrounding the Nub is amazing. I didn't realize there were so many people that didn't care for these, I also didn't know that there were so many people on this forum that had tried one to give them a fair chance before bashing them either ;)
Scott
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Scott,

there is a lot of bashing about the brand I will admit. You have laid down a level minded defense and I applaud that. Allow me to present reasons for the bashing by describing some of my personal reservations about the Nub:
  • There have been an incredible number of threads about this brand. I can recall no time in almost 4 years here of any single cigar that has received such wide and persistent member support.
  • .
  • Sam behaved poorly in his initial approach to CS. I believe through his membership here he is trying to buy good reviews for a lower price than a CA ad. He is very aware of the volume of membership and activity Club Stogie has, and targeted it for a reason. Let me also state that I have seen you and your participation around here Scott, and I am not inclined to believe your positive opinion was bought. You are a stand up gorilla. Others of the many that are preaching the word of Nub I am less inclined to believe Sam's gifts didn't influence.
  • .
  • I don't care for most parejos over 50 RG in any length. I find the thought of starting with a nub, particularly a 54, 58, 60, 64, and even 66 ring gauge nub very unappealing. If I have the usual 1" of tobacco in my mouth, I will have only 2" between my lips and the 1 inch diameter campfire at the burning end. One reason I don't care for large ring gauge cigars is that they are hard to light evenly and can take an inch before achieving an even burn. With a nub the cigar would be halfway through once it was burning right. Perhaps others can get a big gauge cigar to burn evenly more quickly than I can, but to me it still makes the vitola's shape very unappealing. There are enough jokes about cigars and phallus; if a cigar can hold on a Trojan I don't want to smoke it.
  • .
  • For many of us the changes in flavor and development of taste during the smoke are an enjoyable part of the experience. "One dimensional" is generally a negative term for a cigar whose flavor remains the same. Nub's claim to hit the peak flavor immediately and remain there does not sound appealing to me if the blending has achieved this attribute.
  • .
  • The price of the Nub is rather high IMO. Personally I would buy the less costly Serie G or O from Oliva or the slightly more expensive Serie V for my Oliva cigar fix.
I believe some of the above reasons are why The Nub has vocal dissent here to match its supporters. Keep smoking the cigars you like Scott; smoke the cigar because you like it and not because of what other people think or say about it. I still admit to smoking La Fincas for 3 years during the boom and that cigar is as bad as Cremosas to many. :2

-Matt-
 
txmatt said:
Scott,

there is a lot of bashing about the brand I will admit. You have laid down a level minded defense and I applaud that. Allow me to present reasons for the bashing by describing some of my personal reservations about the Nub:
  • There have been an incredible number of threads about this brand. I can recall no time in almost 4 years here of any single cigar that has received such wide and persistent member support.
  • .
  • Sam behaved poorly in his initial approach to CS. I believe through his membership here he is trying to buy good reviews for a lower price than a CA ad. He is very aware of the volume of membership and activity Club Stogie has, and targeted it for a reason. Let me also state that I have seen you and your participation around here Scott, and I am not inclined to believe your positive opinion was bought. You are a stand up gorilla. Others of the many that are preaching the word of Nub I am less inclined to believe Sam's gifts didn't influence.
  • .
  • I don't care for most parejos over 50 RG in any length. I find the thought of starting with a nub, particularly a 54, 58, 60, 64, and even 66 ring gauge nub very unappealing. If I have the usual 1" of tobacco in my mouth, I will have only 2" between my lips and the 1 inch diameter campfire at the burning end. One reason I don't care for large ring gauge cigars is that they are hard to light evenly and can take an inch before achieving an even burn. With a nub the cigar would be halfway through once it was burning right. Perhaps others can get a big gauge cigar to burn evenly more quickly than I can, but to me it still makes the vitola's shape very unappealing. There are enough jokes about cigars and phallus; if a cigar can hold on a Trojan I don't want to smoke it.
  • .
  • For many of us the changes in flavor and development of taste during the smoke is an enjoyable part of the experience. "One dimensional" is generally a negative term for a cigar whose flavor remains the same. Nub's claim to hit the peak flavor immediately and remain there does not sound appealing to me if the blending has achieved this attribute.
  • .
  • The price of the Nub is rather high IMO. Personally I would buy the less costly Serie G or O from Oliva or the slightly more expensive Serie V for my Oliva cigar fix.
I believe some of the above reasons are why The Nub has vocal dissent here to match its supporters. Keep smoking the cigars you like Scott; smoke the cigar because you like it and not because of what other people think or say about it. I still admit to smoking La Fincas for 3 years during the boom and that cigar is as bad as Cremosas to many. :2

-Matt-
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:tpd: Matt, when I grow up, I wanna be just like you. :ss
 
Well put, Matt. :tu

I also find it interesting that those complaining about the bashing seem to be o.k. with all the positive hype about these being the greatest thing since sliced bread. The way I see it, the nay-saying about these doesn't come close to the amount of gushing being done over these.

There are many who love Gurkhas, Perdomos, CAOs and other popular brands. And there are many who think they are crap. The so-called bashing doesn't happen because nobody is claiming they are cigar nirvana.

:2
 
txmatt said:
There have been an incredible number of threads about this brand. I can recall no time in almost 4 years here of any single cigar that has received such wide and persistent member support.
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pnoon said:
I also find it interesting that those complaining about the bashing seem to be o.k. with all the positive hype about these being the greatest thing since sliced bread. The way I see it, the nay-saying about these doesn't come close to the amount of gushing being done over these.
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Also, to call anything in this thread "bashing" is a gross exaggeration.

As I've said in another thread, I hope to try one of these some day. Until then, all I can comment on is the hype and appearance of these cigars. And the only way I can see to respond to the hype and appearance is with laughter.

:2
 
txmatt said:
Scott,

there is a lot of bashing about the brand I will admit. You have laid down a level minded defense and I applaud that. Allow me to present reasons for the bashing by describing some of my personal reservations about the Nub:
  • Sam behaved poorly in his initial approach to CS. I believe this has been clarified by Sam and Admin here. I sure we have all be the subject of misunderstandings in the past. If an apology and clarification doesn't cut it anymore, I guess we would all be blackballed.
  • The price of the Nub is rather high IMO. At just over $4.00 a stick that last an hour. IMO that is a damn good price in my book.
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For the record Sam hasn't bought or influenced me in anyway. I bought 3 boxes yesterday(paid full price like everyone else).

I have had a chance to meet Sam(yesterday) and had a couple PM's with him.

I don't let anyone else's opinions influence me, nor do it get sucked into bashing because it seems to be the 'popular' opinion. I think people should wait until they've tried the cigar and meet Sam in person before they are entitled to form and voice their 'own' opinion on either.

Sorry for the rant, but cigars are supposed to be a calming, positive experience for me, when I start to see all the negative BS it ruins my experience.

Climbing off my soapbox now.

I hope everyone is enjoying a good cigar and positive attitude.:tu
 
So what happens when you try a Nub and dislike it? Am I then not supposed to voice my opinion because of it being taken as "negative bashing"?

I've tried the Nub and dislike it, however I don't believe I need to meet Sam in order to form an opinion on the Nub cigar. I am also not a snob as I really do try and sample all of the new smokes that come out on the NC market so as not to lose touch with the current culture.



I guess I just don't see how people expressing their opinion on a cigar they've tried is bashing, but all the Nub lover's seem to be taking it that way :2
 
txmatt said:
Scott,

there is a lot of bashing about the brand I will admit. You have laid down a level minded defense and I applaud that. Allow me to present reasons for the bashing by describing some of my personal reservations about the Nub:
  • There have been an incredible number of threads about this brand. I can recall no time in almost 4 years here of any single cigar that has received such wide and persistent member support.
  • .
  • Sam behaved poorly in his initial approach to CS. I believe through his membership here he is trying to buy good reviews for a lower price than a CA ad. He is very aware of the volume of membership and activity Club Stogie has, and targeted it for a reason. Let me also state that I have seen you and your participation around here Scott, and I am not inclined to believe your positive opinion was bought. You are a stand up gorilla. Others of the many that are preaching the word of Nub I am less inclined to believe Sam's gifts didn't influence.
  • .
  • I don't care for most parejos over 50 RG in any length. I find the thought of starting with a nub, particularly a 54, 58, 60, 64, and even 66 ring gauge nub very unappealing. If I have the usual 1" of tobacco in my mouth, I will have only 2" between my lips and the 1 inch diameter campfire at the burning end. One reason I don't care for large ring gauge cigars is that they are hard to light evenly and can take an inch before achieving an even burn. With a nub the cigar would be halfway through once it was burning right. Perhaps others can get a big gauge cigar to burn evenly more quickly than I can, but to me it still makes the vitola's shape very unappealing. There are enough jokes about cigars and phallus; if a cigar can hold on a Trojan I don't want to smoke it.
  • .
  • For many of us the changes in flavor and development of taste during the smoke are an enjoyable part of the experience. "One dimensional" is generally a negative term for a cigar whose flavor remains the same. Nub's claim to hit the peak flavor immediately and remain there does not sound appealing to me if the blending has achieved this attribute.
  • .
  • The price of the Nub is rather high IMO. Personally I would buy the less costly Serie G or O from Oliva or the slightly more expensive Serie V for my Oliva cigar fix.
I believe some of the above reasons are why The Nub has vocal dissent here to match its supporters. Keep smoking the cigars you like Scott; smoke the cigar because you like it and not because of what other people think or say about it. I still admit to smoking La Fincas for 3 years during the boom and that cigar is as bad as Cremosas to many. :2

-Matt-
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I believe every Taboo and Pepin thread as well as the CO threads have overshadowed the NUB threads by quite a bit. Here's what I've seen:

1. People getting excited about a new cigar brand before they try it. Can you say this has never happened before?
2. People making "good natured" comments about the cigar's size without trying it.
3. People saying they don't like the way Sam presented himself here and that this is a "hype" cigar.
4. Every single positive thread about the NUB; even the ACTUAL REVIEWS, have somebody chiming in with more "good natured" remarks about the cigar and the hype.
5. Most of these "good natured" remarks are from people who have not tried the cigar.

It looks to me that some people want to make other people feel bad about a cigar they smoke or would like to try. This goes against the No Cigar Snob credo of Club Stogie. I am seeing this from a point of view of a person who has not tried a NUB, has no affiliation with Oliva, and am considered by most of my friends and colleagues to be someone with a pretty thick skin. .

MCS
 
While I appreciate the well thought out nature of your post I would also like to point out that it appears that those who are Nub lovers are trying to make people who did not like the Nub feel bad by saying they are "bashing" the Nub or being "Negative".

I don't think anyone is violating the No Snob Policy just expressing their opinion on a cigar. When people choose to take others opinions personally it turns from a discussion about thoughts on a smoke into "they're being negative about the Nub".

It basically takes away our right to express our feelings on the cigar, and the only ones I see doing that are the ones that have issues with people expressing a less than favorable view of the Nub :2
 
Major Captain Silly said:
1. People getting excited about a new cigar brand before they try it. Can you say this has never happened before? Understandable

2. People making "good natured" comments about the cigar's size without trying it. The size is why I will not try it. Jawbreakers are not for me.

3. People saying they don't like the way Sam presented himself here and that this is a "hype" cigar. First impressions mean alot to me. He did a very poor job presenting himself and then leaving in a huff then realized he had lots of free advertising and a lots of potential buyers here he turned tail and apologized..........for sales, as I see it.

4. Every single positive thread about the NUB; even the ACTUAL REVIEWS, have somebody chiming in with more "good natured" remarks about the cigar and the hype. Opinions are not allowed anymore?

5. Most of these "good natured" remarks are from people who have not tried the cigar. And I never will. :tu
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Smoke what you like and like what you smoke but there are some cigars that just beg to be made fun of. ie: Cremosa, Nub and Fighting Cock. :r Hell, I've made fun of many jawbreakers (CAO, Padron, RP anything over 52 rg) but I didn't see anybody get so defensive as the folks that like the Nub. That's the interesting part, to me.
 
I thought the Connecticut 3.7 X 58 was very enjoyable...my favorite out of the 3.

The Cameroon was ok..and the Habano was pretty decent as well.

Come on guys..everyone's tastes are different. People are allowed to dislike the Nubs AFTER they TRIED (<---Key word) them.

Bashing the Cigar before you try it..doesn't even warrant a comment in the first place.
 
LasciviousXXX said:
While I appreciate the well thought out nature of your post I would also like to point out that it appears that those who are Nub lovers are trying to make people who did not like the Nub feel bad by saying they are "bashing" the Nub or being "Negative".

I don't think anyone is violating the No Snob Policy just expressing their opinion on a cigar. When people choose to take others opinions personally it turns from a discussion about thoughts on a smoke into "they're being negative about the Nub".

It basically takes away our right to express our feelings on the cigar, and the only ones I see doing that are the ones that have issues with people expressing a less than favorable view of the Nub :2
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I have no problem with someone having an opinion, but when people throw out 'negative' opinions (I'll use 'negative' loosely) with no experience to base that opinion on, then it is nothing but a useless opinion. It serves no purpose and it should be kept to one's self.

Sorry, but that's just my opinion.....based on life experience.:D
 
i have not smoked any but I was gifted a couple yesterday. I cannot say if I like them or not, but I can give my opinion on the fact that I think the concept is ridiculous. This is a fact because this is not the forst time the concept has been tried. would I have ever bought these myself? probably not but that does not mean I will not give the ones gifted a fair shake. My biggest beef was the way Sam presented himself here. If I go to buy a car and tell the salesman to let me check with my bank and see if I can get a loan and will let him know in 24 hours I do not expect him to get all upset and take his ball and go home. If this happens and the next day he calls I will hang up. Basically I have hung up on Sam.
 
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