I nubbed a nub today!

Ozone89 said:
People are allowed to dislike the Nubs AFTER they TRIED (<---Key word) them.

Bashing the Cigar before you try it..doesn't even warrant a comment in the first place.
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I respectfully disagree.

I do agree that one should not form negative opinions on the flavor of the cigar without trying one.

BUT, people are certainly "allowed" and justified in their negative impresssion of the cigar based on goofy dimensions, a less than favorable first impression of the owner and the hype surrounding the cigar.
 
Mtmouse said:
I have no problem with someone having an opinion, but when people throw out 'negative' opinions (I'll use 'negative' loosely) with no experience to base that opinion on, then it is nothing but a useless opinion. It serves no purpose and it should be kept to one's self.

Sorry, but that's just my opinion.....based on life experience.:D
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:r
I've seen the Nub and I think it looks goofy. I don't need to smoke one to form an opinion on the vitola. I can see just fine, thanks.
 
Give NUB a Chance:

Ev'rybody's talking about
Pepinism, Tatism, Tabooism, CCism, COism, Opusism
This-ism, that-ism
Isn't it the most
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Ev'rybody's talking about
Ministers, Sinisters, Banisters and canisters,
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, Evolution, Mastication, Flagelolation, Regulations.
Integrations, Meditations, United Nations, Congratulations
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Oh Let's stick to it
Ev'rybody's talking about
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary, Tommy smothers, Bob Dylan,
Tommy Cooper, Derek Tayor, Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
Hare Krishna
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

John Lennon paraphrased by MCS
 
madurolover said:
My biggest beef was the way Sam presented himself here.
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With all due respect, I believe this was Sam's first post to the jungle. Since this was how he presented himself to me and the rest of the jungle, this is how I judge him.

The other conversation was a private one between Sam and admin. We received parts of that conversation 'third hand' and everyone interpreted it in a different way.

I've been a police officer for 19 years, if I took all the 'third hand' information I was given, there would be a lot of innocent people locked up right now.

Sam's first post.
 
Mtmouse said:
With all due respect, I believe this was Sam's first post to the jungle. Since this was how he presented himself to me and the rest of the jungle, this is how I judge him.
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Did you read pds's post about why Sam initially left? I think I would trust a botl like Paul over somebody I don't know trying to sell something.
 
:r

Emarketing sucks balls. Do the cigars? Hey it's like the immensa and other extememly large RG cigars that have preceeded these which were niche "gimmick" cigars. This one has a theory developed by a sales guy though so it must be better. :r

Olivia rolls decent cigars so I'm sure they are just fine. But the second coming kind of attitude is ... well Barnum would be proud. Wonder what they do with "the rest of the leaf? :D

It's a cigar discussion board afterall. No requirements other than the ability to type to contribute to any thread here. Balance is important, particularly in large RG cigars to prevent them form being monochromatic and boring. Folks posting glowing reviews gets balanced by folks who may not appreciate the theory and smoke itself. Dustin whos opinion I value smoked some and called them boring. Nuff said I won't be biting. Folks on the sidelines get to comment on things as well. Over time a sense of "the facts" emerges. Absent personal attacks any comment about a cigar .. smoked or ridiculed is fair game. We endured the optimistic pronouncements from the Nublive crowd before these were even smoked. What's the big deal about the opposite?
 
Mtmouse said:
With all due respect, I believe this was Sam's first post to the jungle. Since this was how he presented himself to me and the rest of the jungle, this is how I judge him.

The other conversation was a private one between Sam and admin. We received parts of that conversation 'third hand' and everyone interpreted it in a different way.

I've been a police officer for 19 years, if I took all the 'third hand' information I was given, there would be a lot of innocent people locked up right now.

Sam's first post.
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so going back to my analogy if the salesman calls my wife and says he does not want to do business with me if it is gonna take me 24 hours to secure a loan and the calls the next day with a different tune I should be fine with it because he did not tell me directly to my face? Not in my neck of the woods brother.:2
 
Da Klugs said:
Dustin whos opinion I value smoked some and called them boring. Nuff said I won't be biting.
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So you are going to limit your experience, based on one man's opinion? Kind of limiting yourself aren't you?

It's been said many times before, everyone has different taste.
 
Some great reading here ya'll. Intention and perception in communications can be a challange for both parties, even more so when more parties become involved and when the basis for this is limited to text.

I'll smoke what I want and can afford and I'll form opinions of what I want when I want and I'll choose when to defend those opinions or not to defend them as well.

I'll do my best to respect the opinions of others, even when I don't agree. Sometimes my perceptions and emotions get in the way of this and I fail myself. Sometimes it takes me longer to realize the error of my ways, but often those experiences for me are the best lessons learned.

The golden rule is, IMO, still a very good standard to live by when we can see fit to do so.
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Forgot to add that I reserve the right to change my opinion.
 
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Mtmouse said:
So you are going to limit your experience, based on one man's opinion? Kind of limiting yourself aren't you?

It's been said many times before, everyone has different taste.
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Note that he said he values Dustin's opinion. This means he's had experience with his opinion in the past, and has settled on listening to an esteemed voice of personal reason. We like to call that learning through others. I have friends with very similar tastes to my own...when they've tried something they don't like, there's a really good chance I too will despise it. So I don't waste my time or money when there is so much out there I do enjoy.

On the other hand, I have close friends who have the opposite taste preference to my own. When they say they love a stick, I tend to stay away from it and vice versa. Again, learned from experience. We've had our moments of 'being open minded' and are now just going on advice we know to be good.

PS. Major Capt. Silly...you are the man.
 
I don't know what to do. I have Nubs and haven't smoked them. Will I or won't I? Actually, it's to bleeping cold again today to even consider. Great thread. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ:)
 
Major Captain Silly said:
Give NUB a Chance:

Ev'rybody's talking about
Pepinism, Tatism, Tabooism, CCism, COism, Opusism
This-ism, that-ism
Isn't it the most
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Ev'rybody's talking about
Ministers, Sinisters, Banisters and canisters,
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, Evolution, Mastication, Flagelolation, Regulations.
Integrations, Meditations, United Nations, Congratulations
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

Oh Let's stick to it
Ev'rybody's talking about
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary, Tommy smothers, Bob Dylan,
Tommy Cooper, Derek Tayor, Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
Hare Krishna
All we are saying is give NUB a chance
All we are saying is give NUB a chance

John Lennon paraphrased by MCS
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Brilliant! :ss
 
Mtmouse said:
So you are going to limit your experience, based on one man's opinion? Kind of limiting yourself aren't you?

It's been said many times before, everyone has different taste.
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I so wish I had a Cremosa to send you. Not out of malice, mind you, just a desire to ensure that you're not limiting your experience. :D
 
D. Generate said:
I so wish I had a Cremosa to send you. Not out of malice, mind you, just a desire to ensure that you're not limiting your experience. :D
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Based on the over whelming evidence, that these suck and the lack of any evidence to the contrary........I'll trust you on this one.:D
 
pnoon said:
I respectfully disagree.

I do agree that one should not form negative opinions on the flavor of the cigar without trying one.

BUT, people are certainly "allowed" and justified in their negative impresssion of the cigar based on goofy dimensions, a less than favorable first impression of the owner and the hype surrounding the cigar.
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Of course someone is allowed to rip on the dimensions or the owner or whatever they wish(except flavor)...I don't think anyone is arguing that point...at least I'm not.

I never seen this site get so worked up over a cigar..unless I missed something.
 
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