So yesterday I picked up a couple of Tat P1s. I'd never tried one and thought it might be a good way to save a few bucks if I liked them. Today I got about an inch into the thing and had to let it die. It was grassy, the wrapper had a few green spots on it, just an overall bad experience. To be fair I'll give the other one a shot in a few days but I wasn't at all impressed with these. I know, I know, it's the value line. Still it tasted like a Don Diego. Not at all what I expected from a Pepin stick. No pepper at all. :2