And smoking with friends.
Bingo! :tu
And smoking with friends.
time out - my thread was hijacked before we got to chicago. there's no way i'm driving to urbana for a cigar!
any places left in chicago that you all know about? i've heard about the four seasons cigar bar. will that remain? anywhere else?
Like I said, this is just rumor, but a cigar smoker can still hope. I don't really know of any other place, other than tobacco shops, that will allow smoking.
It's a very sad time in Illinois.
Eric
Eric, earlier on (when it was about to pass or something), my understanding was that there was an exception for private clubs (which charged a membership fee), which had been around for 3 or more years or something like that.
Not that any of the places discussed in this thread meet that criteria, but do you know if there is still such an exception?
It's funny, as I was typing this I had to run out and wait on a customer. He told me that there was a lawyer at the Union League Club that was planning on filing a lawsuit. I guess the lawyer is trying to get the private clubs exempt. We'll have to keep our fingers crossed on that one.
You can smoke inside at the restaurant at Arlington? I go there a lot in the summer and I know you can smoke outside, but not inside any of the buildings.
I was told that the lounge and sitting areas (not where the food is served) would be exempt, but I will go there and get specific information after Jan. 1st so there is no confusion.
Eric, I sure hope you are right about Sullivan's, but the way I read the statute, there is no way they can pull it off without some type of change to the language of the statute.
I didn't see much hope for the Sullivan's thing as well. At least I can still smoke at home...oh wait, the wife put a stop to that years ago. DAMN! That's okay, to help ease my pain I'll just go out to my favorite restaurant and get some nice foie gras.....wait, Chicago banned that as well.
Well, for all the Chicago guy and gals here, I'll be seeing you out on the sidewalks of the bars and restaurants (remember to stay 15 feet from the door) smoking our cigars. Enjoy!
Eric
and don't forget we can't smoke in any public park or beach any more, either
:sb
I know that this may sound a little lame right now, but why do we let this happen? As voters, we have the right to oppose this kind of legislation BS :BS. If we don't speak up it will be other rights that we enjoy today that will soon be gone. We fought in wars to keep our freedoms from foreign powers and then we allow some group of misinformed zealots take away our rights in this country without much of a fight. What are we thinking? Where will it end?:bn or soon to be.....
Sorry to go off on this in this forum, but I see American's losing their rights, one at a time, and we stand still and act like we are unable to do anything to stop this from happening.
Ok, I'm going to set all you Illinois guys straight,,do you know that after this law is in place the life span of all bartenders and waitstaff will increase 10 fold,, the cost of health insurance will take a dramatic plunge downward and not one bar or cigar lounge will notice a dip in patronage, in fact their business will go up because of all the people that didn't come in because of the smoke.. and to address mmblz,, no smoking in parks or on the beach,,or within 20 ft of doorways,,did you know that one whiff of smoke can possibly cause a heart attack.
Jerry (no smokin since 100107) in Minnesota.
did you know that one whiff of smoke can possibly cause a heart attack.
If you are right, then perhaps the law is a good thing. You let me know when the insurance rates "plunge downward".
That's okay, to help ease my pain I'll just go out to my favorite restaurant and get some nice foie gras.....wait, Chicago banned that as well.
funlab,
I've heard rumors Sullivan's may be keeping their smoking lounge. It sounds like they may build a bar upstairs so you would be able to enjoy a cocktail and a cigar. The bar would be separate entity from the smoking lounge, but still upstairs. If you need a drink you'd head over to the bar, then you could take your drink over to the cigar lounge. There's a whole list of questions as far as how they'd be able to pull it off, but good for them if they do find a way.
Like I said, this is just rumor, but a cigar smoker can still hope. I don't really know of any other place, other than tobacco shops, that will allow smoking.
It's a very sad time in Illinois.
Eric
eric,
i think this is just a rumor. the problem they'd have doing this is the only restrooms for the building are upstairs behind the cigar lounge. this would mean the ordinance would still exclude the possibility of cigar smoking because restaurant customers would have to cut through the bar to reach the restrooms. it would require a major remodeling to accomadate our dream. sucks!