NCRadioMan
More cigars Sanchez!
Interesting, especially from a retailer. Easy to tell from the pics, especially the foot picture. Mold. And fwiw, mold wipes off just as easy as plume and vice versa.
Is This Mold On My Anejo Or Plum??
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Interesting, especially from a retailer. Easy to tell from the pics, especially the foot picture. Mold. And fwiw, mold wipes off just as easy as plume and vice versa.
I haven't had any problems with any of mine molding yet this year. I did take off all the cedar and cello on all of them however. I just didn't want to take any chances. So far they all look great.
Those pictures you have looked like plume until I saw the one of the foot...its definitely mold. Many peeps have give ya some good advice above. Good luck!!
Those pictures you have looked like plume until I saw the one of the foot...its definitely mold. Many peeps have give ya some good advice above. Good luck!!
GOAT LOCKER
chimpus havanas
I've heard this repeated MANY times by retailers, but from personal experience, it is not true. Maybe there are some forms of mold that I've not seen, but I have wiped mold off many cigars, and usually it wipes off VERY easily. Mostly it's an excuse retailers use "See? It wipes off, it's just plume!".
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Mold wipes off very easily.
I have never seen plume on the foot of a cigar. It is always been mold, and if it on the foot, it is likely to be in the fillers/binder as well. I would not smoke that cigar whatsoever. Cutting it off means absolutely nothing.
Any decent retailer will take it back. If they give you "It's plume" crap, never go back cause either they are ignorant or lying.
barbourjay
random cigar bum
definately mold and i would take them back and get a refund or find others that are infested that much.
BTW, all the anejos seem to be shipped really wet and will continue to have these problems unless they do something on their end for quality control, i've seen plenty from this year that also have mold forming on them.
BTW, all the anejos seem to be shipped really wet and will continue to have these problems unless they do something on their end for quality control, i've seen plenty from this year that also have mold forming on them.
baglorious
Gorilla
Echo the "definitely mold" consensus... (but it sounds like that's already settled)
I've had two mold experiences, and I'm pretty comfortable with my actions and the outcome, so I'll blab on for a minute.
First, I had two Anejos with mold. They came from a holiday sampler. I only checked them in the first place because I read another post written by someone with moldy Anejos. Pulled of the cello and cedar sleeves, and sure enough... mold! D'oh! I wiped 'em clean with a SLIGHTLY (and I mean slightly) dampened paper towel, replaced the cedar (but didn't bother with the cello), and stuck them back in the humi, checking them daily for a little while to see if any mold redeveloped. It didn't. I think I ended up smoking them fairly soon after that, just for the heck of it.
Second (and this was actually earlier), I had a box of H. Upmann Naturales Tubos that I bought in a clearance from TNT cigars. (My second box purchase ever, I think... $40 or so.) Those were narrow (38 RG?) cigars. Actually, pretty darn good for what I paid. Anyway, I smoked one or two (mold free), then sorta neglected the rest of the box for a while... they were in a small coolerdor, but I was a newb, and I think I overhumidified it for a while. Then, I moved them to a better coolerdor setup, but didn't open another tubo for months. All the other non-tubo cigars in the coolerdor were fine, and not a trace of mold. I was then gifted a cigar at some point, and noticed it had a few tiny mold spots, so I did a status check on the rest of the humi. So, I opened up one of the neglected tubos... after several months, and MOLD MOLD MOLD. And not small amounts. I checked the rest of the Upmann tubos... and they all had mold. Some, just a bit, others quite a lot. Several of them had plenty of mold around the foot.
So... at that point, I read a bunch of posts. I wiped off all the mold from the tubos, threw away the tubes, clipped 1/4"-1/2" off the cigars with moldy feet, and put 'em back in the humidor. I did watch the humidor for a while, but there was no recurrence, and the cigars were just fine.
And I just remembered another thing! (A third mold experience.) I actually overseasoned a humi once, lol. Put a little tub of water in there and left it for a week or two (it was just a neat little humi I didn't really need to use, which is why I forgot about it)... and when I opened it up again, it had quite a bit of pure white mold in it. I wiped it out, and let it dry out a bit before re-seasoning it (and paying attention to it, lol). Without using any PG or other "mold fighting" solution at all, it was fine.
SO... my advice is, if you only bought one or two, wipe 'em off, clip a bit of the foot (1/4" should do it), and watch them for a few days... or just smoke 'em, lol! I wouldn't re-cello them myself... I personally think that cello, while breathable, is not "as breathable" as, well... nothing. If you bought several of them (more than two), I'd try to take 'em back, as I'd rather have "perfect" Anejos than slightly clipped ones, heheh. If mold weren't in the foot, I wouldn't even bother to take 'em back.
Finally, as someone else commented, don't worry about "infecting" your other cigars or humi. The spores that start mold are already everywhere, and are in your humi right now. So long as the conditions are kept at 70% (or less), mold should not form (or reform).
Good luck! And again... having a bit of mold on a nice cigar is just a great excuse to hurry up and smoke it!
I've had two mold experiences, and I'm pretty comfortable with my actions and the outcome, so I'll blab on for a minute.
First, I had two Anejos with mold. They came from a holiday sampler. I only checked them in the first place because I read another post written by someone with moldy Anejos. Pulled of the cello and cedar sleeves, and sure enough... mold! D'oh! I wiped 'em clean with a SLIGHTLY (and I mean slightly) dampened paper towel, replaced the cedar (but didn't bother with the cello), and stuck them back in the humi, checking them daily for a little while to see if any mold redeveloped. It didn't. I think I ended up smoking them fairly soon after that, just for the heck of it.
Second (and this was actually earlier), I had a box of H. Upmann Naturales Tubos that I bought in a clearance from TNT cigars. (My second box purchase ever, I think... $40 or so.) Those were narrow (38 RG?) cigars. Actually, pretty darn good for what I paid. Anyway, I smoked one or two (mold free), then sorta neglected the rest of the box for a while... they were in a small coolerdor, but I was a newb, and I think I overhumidified it for a while. Then, I moved them to a better coolerdor setup, but didn't open another tubo for months. All the other non-tubo cigars in the coolerdor were fine, and not a trace of mold. I was then gifted a cigar at some point, and noticed it had a few tiny mold spots, so I did a status check on the rest of the humi. So, I opened up one of the neglected tubos... after several months, and MOLD MOLD MOLD. And not small amounts. I checked the rest of the Upmann tubos... and they all had mold. Some, just a bit, others quite a lot. Several of them had plenty of mold around the foot.
So... at that point, I read a bunch of posts. I wiped off all the mold from the tubos, threw away the tubes, clipped 1/4"-1/2" off the cigars with moldy feet, and put 'em back in the humidor. I did watch the humidor for a while, but there was no recurrence, and the cigars were just fine.
And I just remembered another thing! (A third mold experience.) I actually overseasoned a humi once, lol. Put a little tub of water in there and left it for a week or two (it was just a neat little humi I didn't really need to use, which is why I forgot about it)... and when I opened it up again, it had quite a bit of pure white mold in it. I wiped it out, and let it dry out a bit before re-seasoning it (and paying attention to it, lol). Without using any PG or other "mold fighting" solution at all, it was fine.
SO... my advice is, if you only bought one or two, wipe 'em off, clip a bit of the foot (1/4" should do it), and watch them for a few days... or just smoke 'em, lol! I wouldn't re-cello them myself... I personally think that cello, while breathable, is not "as breathable" as, well... nothing. If you bought several of them (more than two), I'd try to take 'em back, as I'd rather have "perfect" Anejos than slightly clipped ones, heheh. If mold weren't in the foot, I wouldn't even bother to take 'em back.
Finally, as someone else commented, don't worry about "infecting" your other cigars or humi. The spores that start mold are already everywhere, and are in your humi right now. So long as the conditions are kept at 70% (or less), mold should not form (or reform).
Good luck! And again... having a bit of mold on a nice cigar is just a great excuse to hurry up and smoke it!
wharfrathoss
old man down
be careful smoking anything that had mold on the foot-since you inhale a little b4 lighting, the spores could make it into your lungs
Well, I just found mold one one of the four I have left from a fiver -- and possibly a spot on another one. Wiped it off, pulled them all out of their cellophane, removed the ribbon and stuck them in separate plastic bag for monitoring. I suppose I might have to smoke them all. Kind of a drag, since I was hoping to age them for a couple years.
Meanwhile, I'm smoking a RP 1990 toro, which tastes great, is constructed like a gem and is a hell of a lot cheaper and less hassle than Anejos.
Meanwhile, I'm smoking a RP 1990 toro, which tastes great, is constructed like a gem and is a hell of a lot cheaper and less hassle than Anejos.
Guitarman-S.T-
...Got Metal?
woofta.. never seen plume grow on the foot of a cigar... but if ya cant bring it back.. click both ends instead of the cap, and smoke up
It's a statistical fact... 9 out of 10 people who comment on plume vs. mold have never actually seen plume in person.
A well known fact that very few people know about.
nwksaxman@hotmail.com
Gorilla
the foot IS mold, no question!
Guitarman-S.T-
...Got Metal?
thats what i thought. Knowing plume more or less only starts on the wrapper, extracting the oil's from the norm-sungrown wrappers- Ive seen sticks ingolfed with plume... specially on vsg's where they are almost stuck together from all of that good stuff.. but it never reaches the foot of a cigar...
Mold Mold Mold:tu