Alright, Im not exactly sure what size the Vinotemp is that I saw but that thing is HUGE. I went into a store in my neighborhood which has really random stuff. My guess is they get it from a back of a truck but hey, who knows I guess. Im walking around and BOOM big shiny Vinotemp marked down to $250. It had a ton of wooden trays in there. I didn't get a great look at it since there was stuff in front of it but the thing was BIG. So if anybodys in the Brooklyn area and needs a big Vinotemp PM and Ill tell you where the shop is. There was also a small one they had in the back with no price on it but I couldn't imagine it selling for more than 75 bucks or so knowing their prices. That itself could hold a decent amount of boxes.