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floydpink

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Last night, I had the unfortunate task of comforting a friend who's child is in pediatric intensive care after drowning.

While in the family waiting area, I mentioned to her husband that I was going outside to smoke a cigar across the street.

His eyes lit up and he went on to tell me how he spent months learning about cigars and is an afficianado and went on to ask me what cigars I liked. I said I had a couple to chose from and he can pick whatever he wants and join me to get away for a bit.

Each time I mentioned one, and they were names like Padron, Fuente, Pepin, etc, he would reply, "overrated... crap..... nah!....etc"

Considering the situation, I was in no mood to be confrontational and nodded my head until i finally asked him what he likes.

His reply was that he smokes a cigar like the one M Jordan does and it's called Lars Teton, which are impossible to get.

I was really curious, went home and did some searching and it seems that my research shows they are infused cigars similar to Acids unless I got wrong info.

I even came across a thread on Cigarpass where a few guys were lamenting that they couldn't give them away.

Anyone know of this cigar that this guy feels puts my favorites to shame and, according to him, makes a RASS seem like a dog rocket?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer, and the answer is this guy has no clue.

The whole thing left me shaking my head, but in the scope of things was not that important compared to the sadness I experienced and the serious danger the poor child is in.
 
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Don't know anything about the smoke in question, but sorry to hear about your buddies kid.
 
Coffee Grounds said:
After the kids drowning who really cares about debating which cigar is best.
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Guess you missed the last line of my post.

Anyway, my intention was to ask if anyone knew this cigar out of curiosity and I am far from taking the situation lightly as we are very close friends who's kids were born around the same time.

I probably should have just asked about the cigar.
 
Wait Until things get setteled and then when you have a chace invite him on here. I think the crowd here will do the job for you,
Jay




floydpink said:
Last night, I had the unfortunate task of comforting a friend who's child is in pediatric intensive care after drowning.

While in the family waiting area, I mentioned to her husband that I was going outside to smoke a cigar across the street.

His eyes lit up and he went on to tell me how he spent months learning about cigars and is an afficianado and went on to ask me what cigars I liked. I said I had a couple to chose from and he can pick whatever he wants and join me to get away for a bit.

Each time I mentioned one, and they were names like Padron, Fuente, Pepin, etc, he would reply, "overrated... crap..... nah!....etc"

Considering the situation, I was in no mood to be confrontational and nodded my head until i finally asked him what he likes.

His reply was that he smokes a cigar like the one M Jordan does and it's called Lars Teton, which are impossible to get.

I was really curious, went home and did some searching and it seems that my research shows they are infused cigars similar to Acids unless I got wrong info.

I even came across a thread on Cigarpass where a few guys were lamenting that they couldn't give them away.

Anyone know of this cigar that this guy feels puts my favorites to shame and, according to him, makes a RASS seem like a dog rocket?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer, and the answer is this guy has no clue.

The whole thing left me shaking my head, but in the scope of things was not that important compared to the sadness I experienced and the serious danger the poor child is in.
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Stolen from www.cigaraficionado.com

One-on-One with Michael Jordan (continued)

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MRS: Cigars? We're sitting here. We're smoking a Cuban Monty No. 2. Nothing wrong with that. I went through your humidor here; you have a great selection. When did you first get into cigars?
JORDAN: I smoked my first cigar in 1991, when we won the championship. Up to that point, I had never smoked a cigar, never smoked anything. We won the championship, and Jerry Reinsdorf gave me one of his cigars. He's a big cigar smoker.

The next time I received a cigar was from my good friend, Ahmad Rashad. He used to get these Churchills from Las Vegas that were dipped in rum. I wouldn't smoke them, but I would sit there and chew on them. I got to the point where it became very relaxing.

In Chicago, I tell people this, and they have to understand the context of what happened. We had to be to the stadium at 6 o'clock for home games, and traffic was so bad it would take us an hour and 15 or an hour and 30 minutes to drive. So now I'm sitting in a car for almost an hour and a half, and I'm very tense. I'm worried about the traffic. So I started smoking a cigar going to the games. In 1993. It became a ritual for every home game.

MRS: What cigar?
JORDAN: At the time, I started out with the Hoyo de Monterrey Double Corona.

MRS: That's a good hour smoke.
JORDAN: Taking my time. I never rushed. As soon as I walked in, Phil [Jackson] would say, OK, you had a long drive. It became such a relaxing thing to do. Not many people know about it. When they read this, they'll know that each and every day for a home game, I smoked a cigar. I wanted that feeling of success, and relaxation. It's the most relaxing thing.

MRS: People don't understand. When I'm in the office and I have a problem, I light a cigar, and my mind expands and I'm able to solve the problem.
JORDAN: It is the most relaxing thing. Every time I get to a point where everything is coming at me, I would rather just sit back and smoke a cigar and relax.

MRS: What are your favorite cigars today?
JORDAN: Partagas Lusitanias. I love those. And I'm in love with all Cubans. I've become a big Cuban cigar smoker. I gradually worked my way up from Las Vegas rum-dipped to all the different types.

MRS: What size cigar do you like?
JORDAN: Depends on the time, depends on the day, depends on what I'm doing. If I'm in a rush, I can go for a robusto—not that it's not going to be rushing, but it's smaller.

MRS: You ever have an Epicure No. 2?
JORDAN: Sure.

MRS: Partagas Serie D?
JORDAN: Sure. You've got me smoking these Montecristo No. 2s, and these are so strong. If I hadn't had anything to eat, I wouldn't touch this. These are for the end of the night, and I'm getting ready for the end of the day. If I had to smoke a cigar that I can get through, that would be an Esplendido. I can get through those.

MRS: So, today, when do you smoke?
JORDAN: I already smoked today. I went to work out, and I had a cigar on the way, fighting the traffic the whole way.

MRS: What kind of cigar did you smoke this morning?
JORDAN: I had a Cohiba Siglo II.

MRS: Have you ever been to a cigar factory?
JORDAN: No, and it's my biggest dream to visit Cuba and visit some of these factories. Obviously with the embargo it's a little difficult.

MRS: Dominican Republic, Honduras, Nicaragua. Maybe we will have to take a tour.
JORDAN: I'd love to go. I'm open. I have a strong interest. Don't ask me how many a day I smoke.

MRS: I don't tell people how many I smoke a day, either. Arnold Schwarzenegger—I believe we can describe him as a successful actor. Huge cigar guy. Now he's the governor of California.
JORDAN: No! No! No! Not interested.
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Entire interview here : http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,2322,1667,00.html
 
I also thought Jordan smoked Cohibas, but when he mentioned one of the cigars is long and thin, I remembered seeing a picture of MJ after a championship smoking an odd looking cigar.

I mentioned I would ask about the cigar on an internet board and he seemed certain nobody would know about them and said Lars Teton is a surfer in Hawaii that doesn't produce them in quantity for sale.

He said he would bring me one the next time I see him which will probably be later today.

I realize it seems senseless talking about cigars during a tragedy but the conversation followed a long discussion about much more serious matters and I felt it gave the guy a brief diversion he seemed to need at the time.
 
Lats Tetens cigars were around long before Acid, and Acid were basically copies of the Lars Tetens model with much better marketing.

I believe they are still made, but you do not see them around much. They had weird names like "Grass", "Mushashi", etc. They are listed in the Top25Cigar Review Database, and much like Acid, most find it is a love/hate relationship with them.

You can check them out at Larstetens.com
 
I knew the answer would come and who better to provide it.

I am gonna check out Top25 and prolly shoulda done that to start.

In hindsight, I vaguely remember being handed one of these many years ago on a fishing trip.
 
I had a similar experience with Lars Teton. A friend of mine swore up and down that these were some of the best cigars one could get legally. Afterall, they were like $15-$30 a piece. They have to be good right?

Well, I decided to go to the shop where they had them. (this was about 5-6 years ago) My friend bought me one of the $25 ones. So we sat out back and started smoking it. I got about half way down, when this "thing" started tasting exactly like soap. Like dial soap. It was awful. The aftertaste was more than I could bear, but my friend had paid a good amount for it, so I suffered through.

Basically, they were infused cigars with poor tobacco base. The filler was more like shredded cigar floor sweepings. They got popular because of their advertising. Metallica, Pantera, and a few other big celebrities did the marketing for them. I doubt that the celebrities ever actually smoked one, but they did posters and what not to help advertise. Most of the time these were found in skateboard/headshop/cigarette smokers stores. I have never seen one in a reputable B&M.

So then, about a year went by and I decided to give it another shot and got one more. Fool me twice, shame on me. It was as awful as the first. Be glad that you did not try one. After a couple years, my friend admitted to me it was more about hype, and he actually did not like them either. At the time it was "cool" to smoke a $25 cigar that Metallica was smoking.... I guess.
 
You definitely did right by not drilling the guy about his choice of smokes.

Some instances call for ignoring ignorance (heh repitition). Way to keep your cool head :).

Always good to be there for a friend. :tu
 
Thanks. I was expecting more lecturing on why I would be thinking about cigars during such a crisis and was hoping to avoid explaining cutting my vacation on Singer Island short to get home as I was one of the first they called. Luckily, it was minimal as it's been a rough week and the details don't belong here but it's not looking like a happy ending.
 
ehh, whatever floats your boat I guess. If he likes infused smokes like acids then by all means that's what he should smoke.
 
I can think of a few cigars that I believe to be overpriced but it's not up to me to declare that they're overrated. Sometimes a guy will enjoy a cigar just because it's expensive. As long as he doesn't think that spending big bucks on a stick makes him an expert, there's no harm in it.
 
That was the weird thing. Close to the hospital is a B&M that I haven't had the opportunity to visit yet. He was mentioning that they hold different events throughout the year like cigar tastings and I believe he mentioned seminars or classes. He was saying that he spent a good part of the year visiting the store. He then went on to say he had gained a wide knowlege about wrappers, binders and filler which he referred to as "meat". Overall, I mostly listened as he spoke.

I am not looking to discredit his tastes or say mine are more refined. It was the mention of Lars Teton as his top cigar in the world that made me curious as I hadn't remembered ever seeing mention of it on this or any other board or publication.

In the end, if the cigar brings him pleasure and some relief, I am extremely grateful to lars for rolling them.
 
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