Habanos Torres (Mesa, AZ)

Yeah the better you know Tim, the better deal he will cut you...

Anyway, glad to hear you enjoyed it. As far as a recommendation would go... I say try a Slawek (pronounced suave-ik it is the nickname for our Polish immigrant friend Slavomir whose name means famous peace). The cigar uses 15 year old tobacco and can only be described as a super toro. 6"x60 it is a medium level cigar. Very tasty.
 
sonick said:
But yeah, the prices are not exactly what one would call cheap (INITIALLY), but he definetely does have to recoup on that STELLAR tobacco he's using, which can't be cheap itself. Plus, they're worth EVERY dollar in taste!! Like others have said here and elsewhere, the more you visit and the better he knows you, the better of a deal he cuts you. Much like most shops I'd say. I've witnessed his generosity with long-term clients, it is significant to say the least...... so keep visiting him!

I know two regulars, Bob the 1911 freak from Tucson and Gary the Sales Maestro from Chandler.... I wonder if either of them frequent this board ? If so, I'm the guy in the Glock shirt that y'all kept hassling about my plastic toys (at which time I schooled you both..... LOL JK)

Phoenix herf ?
Where ? (Habanos Torres would good!)
When ?

I'm there.....
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I am finally reading these posts AFTER I visited the store. I didn't want to taint my impressions with the Gorilla impressions out there;at the same time I didn't want the hype to overdo my own expectations, hence if it was a let down, I'd less likely post any comments or reviews.....HOWEVER....

His cigars are the BOMB. And I can tell you this, he told me as a side note, his family in the many different South American countries GROWS AND AGES THE LEAVES! Talk about constant supply for a small shop like his.

His workmanship is amazing and it truly comes out when you smoke one of his cigars.

You get what you pay for, and if you don't know what you want and want to order something without tasting it first or without a recommendation, just tell him what you like and he will roll something good to sell/ship to you. Its just that good.

I do want to echo something Tim said and I have heard before, the only totally hand rolled cigars only come from Cuba, but that is rare too because after Castro came into power, Castro did away with the many generations of families that fully hand roll cigars. Instead, Castro employed these family members to do specific parts of cigar fabrication. A set of people would pack the filler, another set of people wraps the filler with a binder and then another set of rollers puts the wrap on the cigar. If you are blessed to get a real habano, you are most likely getting one that is 'put together' by multiple people; hence the consistency might not be there.

People here that have had the opportunity to try out a Torres habano have repeatedly complimented how smooth and consistent his cigars taste from first lit draw to the last possible puff of the nub. I can only attribute this to the fact Tim rolls each and every cigar from start to finish. His heart and love goes into every process of cigar rolling, from the picking of leaves, to the aging, blending and finally the rolling of the final product. Just magnificent.

Comments?? Thoughts?? I'm not trying to start a flame war here...just wanted to throw out my thoughts.


-tchariya


BTW, if any of you PHX'ers are reading this, I will most likely be out to see Tim again Tuesday(03/06/07) night to enjoy another one or two of his creations with Tim. Why don't you join me if you have time. I'd love to meet you guys!
 
Tim told me the same thing when I was there. Another thing I never knew (yes I'm a noob), is he told me that a "box press" (square) cigar, CANNOT be hand rolled. I never knew that. He says those are only done by machine only.

Anyone want to elaborate on that as well?
 
JohnDeereGuy said:
Tim told me the same thing when I was there. Another thing I never knew (yes I'm a noob), is he told me that a "box press" (square) cigar, CANNOT be hand rolled. I never knew that. He says those are only done by machine only.

Anyone want to elaborate on that as well?
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I think what he meant is the box pressing of the cigar comes from cigar molds, not the rolling process. A cigar can be handmade, and then put in the box pressed mold to attain the "boxed" shape.

I would love to see him tell Orlando Padron that their cigars are not hand rolled! :ss
 
pds said:
I think what he meant is the box pressing of the cigar comes from cigar molds, not the rolling process. A cigar can be handmade, and then put in the box pressed mold to attain the "boxed" shape.

I would love to see him tell Orlando Padron that their cigars are not hand rolled! :ss
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i wouldn't even tell Jorge that!Nope not me...:D
 
Excellent review and thanks from a Phoenix area member. Do you have an address? Ah never mind, I'll try to find a website. Can anyone who has tried them compare them to another brand, either CC or NC?
 
pds said:
I think what he meant is the box pressing of the cigar comes from cigar molds, not the rolling process. A cigar can be handmade, and then put in the box pressed mold to attain the "boxed" shape.

I would love to see him tell Orlando Padron that their cigars are not hand rolled! :ss
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Maybe he was talking about the wrapper, that you cant hand wrap a square cigar. I swear Tim said something about not being to do a box press by hand. It came up because i asked him if he had any available and this is where he said you couldn't do it. Not trying to dispute anything, just wanted to edumacate myself on this.
 
JohnDeereGuy said:
Maybe he was talking about the wrapper, that you cant hand wrap a square cigar. I swear Tim said something about not being to do a box press by hand. It came up because i asked him if he had any available and this is where he said you couldn't do it. Not trying to dispute anything, just wanted to edumacate myself on this.
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Not sure what he is trying to say. I have seen box pressed cigars made by hand...wrapper and all...hundreds of times. They either put the filler and binder together by hand, and then mold it square and wrap it after, or roll the entire cigar and then put it in a box pressed mold.

He may be saying that inclusion of a mold to "square-off" the cigars shape disqualifies it from being entirely hand made. The more I think about it the more likely this is what he is trying to say. I can't say I agree with it, as molds are so common place in the industry, but can see why he would say it.
 
He may be saying that inclusion of a mold to "square-off" the cigars shape disqualifies it from being entirely hand made. The more I think about it the more likely this is what he is trying to say. I can't say I agree with it, as molds are so common place in the industry, but can see why he would say it.
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I think you nailed it. Tim is old school and a 5th generation roller. He is already teaching his son the art. Trust me on this one, his cigars are top notch and I have not smoked an ISOM that has been better then what rolls. I highly suggest anyone that is in the area to pay him a visit...he will also ship out orders to you.

Tim told me that a new cigar shop going in Mesa may carry some of his smokes. The new plaza is on Dobson near the 202 and the park with the lake.
 
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Thanks for the explanation guys. I think the "old school" way of rolling is what he was trying to explain. He is obviously keeping with his old school ways and thats why you don't find any box press cigars in his shop. Like I said earlier, I wasn't trying to disagree with anyone on this, I was just kinda confused on the rolling methods and what constitutes "hand rolled".

Needless to say, Tim, you da man!
 
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