In your opinion. I guess mine don't count. So I can't say the White Owl Grapes are bad because I havn't had one? :r
So defensive....
How are white Owl grapes bad? Did you have one before?
In your opinion. I guess mine don't count. So I can't say the White Owl Grapes are bad because I havn't had one? :r
So defensive....
How are white Owl grapes bad? Did you have one before?
How are white Owl grapes bad? Did you have one before?
So I shouldn't try one, because you said they are covered in grape, and they MUST be bad? Thanks for putting that much power into my words but no, that is my opinion. You can't seem to grasp that.
Not trying to pick a fight but.. If you never tried that cigar before..I don't understand how it can be bad then? what's so bad about it..it being grape flavored? If you don't like grape that's fine..but for someone who does..are you giving them a fair review of something you never tried in the first place?
Again, I refer to my opinion. Isn't that what all reviews are? . :r
All I said was..a person can't rip on the Nub (flavor wise) if they never tried it..and that's not an opinion like you stated..it's a fact.
Again, I will not try it because its a frickin jaw-breaker! A cigar that large does not feel comfortable to me. Even if it was the greatest tasting cigar in the world, why should a I smoke a cigar that I am uncomfortable with? The Cohiba Sublime, Padron 7000 anything over 54 is in this same category for me but you don't see people getting so defensive about that do you?
So I shouldn't try one, because you said they are covered in grape, and they MUST be bad?
Not trying to pick a fight but.. If you never tried that cigar before..I don't understand how it can be bad then? what's so bad about it..it being grape flavored? If you don't like grape that's fine..but for someone who does..are you giving them a fair review of something you never tried in the first place?
All I said was..a person can't rip on the Nub (flavor wise) if they never tried it..and that's not an opinion like you stated..it's a fact.
So now a 54 ring gauge is considered a jaw breaker? lol
Then stop and let somebody have an opinion.I don't come to message boards to pick fights
I'm glad you posted that link. I'd like everyone who has jumped on the nub bandwagon to read the last part of his post especially. I'm glad that he finds these boards so important, so important that he hasn't been on at all to answer any of these threads. In fact, his last few posts came for the contest before the launch. Where is Sam now?
On the road meeting people in person, like me.
Sam has used the jungle,
I don't see how. I believe the sequence of events was more like; we as members started talking about Nubs and Sam joined to answer our questions.
Someone else said that these kind of posts are negatively effecting their enjoyment of the nubs. Well, if that's the case, you need to haul ass off these forums and go hide in a dark corner somewhere. I've been on cigars boards for the last five years or so and there isn't one cigar I enjoy personaly that hasn't been ripped before. Grow a thicker skin :2
At no time did I say enjoyment of Nubs. It was smoking cigars. 19 years as a cop....my skin is pretty thick.
I have been very vocal about this because I want the jungle to know about the bs surrounding this brand. How many new smokers might be swayed by Sam's slick marketing and fancy band? How many people missed the orignal outburst?
Again, this was a private conversation, not directed at you or I. I revert back to the original link. Since that's was how he presented himself, to me ; that's how I will judge him.
So in the end, if I sway just one person away from buying nub cigars, I think i've done my job as a responsible member of this fine community. Nobody uses my home and takes advantage of my extended family here without getting an earfull from me
Sorry, but I don't see how he 'used' this community.
Sam used CS as a marketing tool to promote his brand then jumped ship. Did you miss that part of my post? Don't feed me that crap that's he's on the road. I'm traveling all the time,
Good, maybe you'll get a chance to bump into him on the road, then you can form your own opinion...based on your real experience.
Also, thank you for ignoring all I wrote about about the bullshit backstory. I'm glad you buy into the nub theory
I read your whole post. I'm not 'buying' into any theory. I'm judging people on how they interact with me(not third hand info). And I'm judging a cigar after I tried it.
Since I've had the opportunity to speak with Sam in person and I read his original post, this is how I judge him. Since I had the opportunity to smoke the cigars, I can give an educated opinion(based on my taste and preference).
I guess we can agree to disagree. I just wish people would pass judgment on 'their' real life experiences.
Jose Olivia
I have read this entire thread and find nothing said here to be outside the realm of a healthy debate. Congratulations on having such a robust and vibrant community. As far as NUB jokes, all is fair in love and war. When we put a product out for approval we also expose it to differing opinions.