I'm done with Rocky Patel Blends

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sacmore21

ChestBeater
Today was the last day for me and Rocky. I had an R4 maduro that I had to use a napkin the entire time in order to wipe off the dye from my lips. Now, I expect this when I have my Phillie's Titan with maduro. However, I do not expect this from a major manufacturer.

This also isn't the first time I've had issues with Patel cigars. The only, and I mean only, cigar I've ever had that almost plugged to the point of being unsmokeable was a Patel Vintage Connecticut.

Now, I will admit that I have not tried all of his blends (although, of the ones I have tried, I haven't been overwhelmed). And, actually, it wasn't that the R4 was a bad cigar. It was actually pretty decent, and so was the vintage connecticut. What I cannot accept is the lengths to which they are going to simply produce cigars. I think that a manufacturer that is willing to cut corners on some of their blends, are willing to cut corners on all of their blends. I know that I would not see this with Fuente's or Padron's. So, for all the Rocky lovers, there will now be more available for you. Rant over, thanks :D
 
I am sorry to hear that , I have had a few problems with some Patels, and I have ran into a few dyes ones, but I still like the Vintage 92's, so I can't write him off yet. I am sure you will find some other great smokes to fill the void.​
 
I've really enjoyed the RP line. I have run into the dye issue a time or two. However, the quality of the smokes keeps me coming back. Sorry about your misfortune. I'll take all your RPs of your hands so that you don't have to live surrounded by frustration. :tu
 
It might be time to move on to the Oliva smokes. They are still putting out some really good smokes and if they stay true to this they should be around for a very long time.
 
sorry to hear that brah. I have never had a problem with any of the RP line that i have smoked.
 
sacmore21 said:
......However, I do not expect this from a major manufacturer. ...... I think that a manufacturer that is willing to cut corners on some of their blends, are willing to cut corners on all of their blends. ......
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Hmm. I'll try to be delicate with my point here and say in advance I mean no offense.

I think every manufacturer in every business will cut corners on some products and not on others. I'm sure that Fuente gives the Opus a little more attention than they give the Curly Head just like I'm sure that Mercedes gives its $250,000 models slightly more quality control than they give the $32,000 models. Its the nature of the beast.

So typically I would suggest not just Rocky but for every ciger maker I would stay away from the house blend/seconds stuff that they do if you want to avoid quality issues. I'd bet that there are 10 times as many problems with Edge Counterfits or R4s than there are with 1992s or even the 1999s. There is a reason those cigars are so much cheaper and I'm willing to bet that its not because Rocky is such a nice guy.

Someone will inevitably jump in and say "All I smoke is seconds and they are always fabulous. In fact my seconds always make me happy as a clam and they contain the winning powerball numbers inside the wrapper." I'll respond to that before it is even posted with a bully for those people but the economics are what they are. The less expensive the product is the less affordable it is to do any QC on it.

Also if it makes any difference I don't smoke RP products currently. In fact other than 3 OWR I don't even own any. I'm not advocating for or against Rocky, just saying maybe you should reset your expectations based on what you are buying.
 
It's too bad a few bad apples wrote them off for you, but I can't blame you. I really enjoy the Vintage and Sun Grown line. Perhaps I'll stick with them so I don't run into the same situation.
 
Addiction said:
Hmm. I'll try to be delicate with my point here and say in advance I mean no offense.

I think every manufacturer in every business will cut corners on some products and not on others. I'm sure that Fuente gives the Opus a little more attention than they give the Curly Head just like I'm sure that Mercedes gives its $250,000 models slightly more quality control than they give the $32,000 models. Its the nature of the beast.

So typically I would suggest not just Rocky but for every ciger maker I would stay away from the house blend/seconds stuff that they do if you want to avoid quality issues. I'd bet that there are 10 times as many problems with Edge Counterfits or R4s than there are with 1992s or even the 1999s. There is a reason those cigars are so much cheaper and I'm willing to bet that its not because Rocky is such a nice guy.

Someone will inevitably jump in and say "All I smoke is seconds and they are always fabulous. In fact my seconds always make me happy as a clam and they contain the winning powerball numbers inside the wrapper." I'll respond to that before it is even posted with a bully for those people but the economics are what they are. The less expensive the product is the less affordable it is to do any QC on it.

Also if it makes any difference I don't smoke RP products currently. In fact other than 3 OWR I don't even own any. I'm not advocating for or against Rocky, just saying maybe you should reset your expectations based on what you are buying.
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:tpd: Nicely put......
 
Addiction said:
Hmm. I'll try to be delicate with my point here and say in advance I mean no offense.

I think every manufacturer in every business will cut corners on some products and not on others. I'm sure that Fuente gives the Opus a little more attention than they give the Curly Head just like I'm sure that Mercedes gives its $250,000 models slightly more quality control than they give the $32,000 models. Its the nature of the beast.

So typically I would suggest not just Rocky but for every ciger maker I would stay away from the house blend/seconds stuff that they do if you want to avoid quality issues. I'd bet that there are 10 times as many problems with Edge Counterfits or R4s than there are with 1992s or even the 1999s. There is a reason those cigars are so much cheaper and I'm willing to bet that its not because Rocky is such a nice guy.

Someone will inevitably jump in and say "All I smoke is seconds and they are always fabulous. In fact my seconds always make me happy as a clam and they contain the winning powerball numbers inside the wrapper." I'll respond to that before it is even posted with a bully for those people but the economics are what they are. The less expensive the product is the less affordable it is to do any QC on it.

Also if it makes any difference I don't smoke RP products currently. In fact other than 3 OWR I don't even own any. I'm not advocating for or against Rocky, just saying maybe you should reset your expectations based on what you are buying.
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Smart words from a smart man.
Business is business. If it costs too much to control quality on a cheaper cigar, they won't do it.
 
I gave up on Rocky a long time ago, and I don't think I'll ever go back. There are just too many better sticks out there :)
Scott
 
sacmore21 said:
Today was the last day for me and Rocky. I had an R4 maduro that I had to use a napkin the entire time in order to wipe off the dye from my lips.
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Haha napkins and cigars. This makes for a really funny image :D


I know you are mad. I've gotten shit lipped by the Liga O x-out (OWR 2nds) but I've never had a problem with OWR the itself. The Vintage 92 2nds aren't dyed and out of 4 bundles, everyone of them has smoked straight as a razor (working on #5 now). I lost the Powerball drawing this month so, I won't claim there is a djinni in them or that they stay crunchy in milk. They are what they are for little over a buck a stick.

Addiction was right, don't write the brand off because you didn't like the budget smoke. Rocky has some good stuff and some stuff if given the choice I would never touch again.
 
Addiction said:
The less expensive the product is the less affordable it is to do any QC on it.
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Although that's generally the case, manufacturers in many industries often package a product that has been made on the same line by the same people (and gone through the same QC) differently so that they can sell it at two different price points. The difference in price represents whatever value is added by the label/name/brand and not necessarily any difference in production quality. I was under the impression that this is happening in the cigar industry, but maybe the fact that the cigars are handmade makes the cigar industry different.

[EDIT: I guess this came off a little jerky, but it wasn't intended to be jerky. And I'm definitely not trolling for seconds.]
 
i have had dye issues with the OWR maduro and that is a more expensive line which should have better quality control than his less expensive lines. i have also had dye issues with most of his indian tabac line. im hesitant to even go near the double maduro he put out recently. if it wasnt for the sun grown i too would be done with RP
 
I like the cigarsbut not the dye. I wipe the dye off with a damp paper towel and dry them before I smoke them. I have noticed this on the Edge. It's not just RP.
 
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